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Clarification on "national experience level", please?

ORIGINAL: Alfred
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Further to the above, TRACOM helps in maintaining the experience level of graduates. Each nationality has it's own experience level. New graduates come out with an experience which is in a range +/- the national level. The TRACOM instructors help to minimise the amount of below national experience level the graduate comes out with. The TRACOM assistance will not produce a graduate above the national experience level.
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There are several mentions of this "national experience level". Is there a chart somewhere showing this level? I seem to remember one for LCUs, but have not found one for pilots. Again, probably my failure to look in the right place, but, I promise, I have tried, resulting in finding this thread from July of 2011.

Also, I have seen significant increase in accelerated pilots from my IJNAF and IJAAF training schools with my TRACOM pilots (~100 IJAAF and ~200 IJNAF).

Nashvillen,

What I think Alfred is referring to is the default experience of 'trained' pilots emerging from the 12 month training program. This varies by branch of military and, in the case of the Allies, by nationality too.

For the Japanese, you could consider the IJAAF and IJNAF as two separate 'nationality experience' presets and defaults for trained pilots. This experience starts at a certain value in 1941 and, depending on scenario settings, generally tapers off thereafter.

Hope this is what you are looking for.

ORIGINAL: Alfred

ORIGINAL: Capt Hornblower

ORIGINAL: Alfred

Training is not really improved by having experienced pilots amongst the rookies.

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Alfred

This directly contradicts the manual (p. 260, top), which states that moving experienced pilots to training squadrons (designated as such by the player) helps increase the rate of skills acquisition by green pilots assigned to the unit from training command. (See last sentence of the paragraph.)

On the subject of 180-day rotation, there seems to be a consensus that this function has no benefit whatsoever to the player and is only chosen as a pilot's assignment by mistake.

And if you had paid close attention to the second sentence in that paragraph you would have noticed it only applied to dedicated "Training Groups" which are not the same thing as a group on a training mission. Dedicated "Training Groups" were removed in an early patch and are not present now.

Alfred

Contradicts the volume of unscientific observation I've made playing this game pertaining the 50-60 Exp training band. I typically take my TRACOMs and put them in packs of 5 into training mission squadrons with 50+ Exp pilots. Their EXP goes up much faster.

It's the same thing if you put 50+ pilots into a front line squadron where they fly sorties daily. their Exp goes up when the average squadron EXP is higher than theirs. I've not seen anything indicating this function is limited to "Training Squadrons".

Take 2 squadrons and stuff it full of Replacements. They'll train fast, with little outside influence quite until they hit 50 Exp. Then their exp slows greatly. Take that one of those squadrons and and give it a few higher exp pilots, so that the AVG Exp is 1-2 points above 50. This squadron will see more pilots reason 60 Exp than the other squadron. This is obvsersion from 2 PBEM where I had several 50+ only squadrons training along side 1 or 2 50+ Squadrons with TRACOM inside. Those squadrons trained faster every time.

For this reason, my training scheme is as follows.

Rookie Squadrons: Train Replacements to 50 Exp, then those pilots get dumped into Reserve and the squadron refilled with Replacements

Advanced Training: 5-8 TRACOM pilots (or high 70's Exp) with the remainder filled in with pilots training the 50-60 band. As pilots reach 60 Exp, they are send to Reserve and replaced with a new 50 Exp pilot.

This has resulted in 100's of reserve 60 Exp pilots in my current game in late '43.

ORIGINAL: nashvillen

Clarification on "national experience level", please?

ORIGINAL: Alfred
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Further to the above, TRACOM helps in maintaining the experience level of graduates. Each nationality has it's own experience level. New graduates come out with an experience which is in a range +/- the national level. The TRACOM instructors help to minimise the amount of below national experience level the graduate comes out with. The TRACOM assistance will not produce a graduate above the national experience level.
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There are several mentions of this "national experience level". Is there a chart somewhere showing this level? I seem to remember one for LCUs, but have not found one for pilots. Again, probably my failure to look in the right place, but, I promise, I have tried, resulting in finding this thread from July of 2011.

Also, I have seen significant increase in accelerated pilots from my IJNAF and IJAAF training schools with my TRACOM pilots (~100 IJAAF and ~200 IJNAF).

It is understandable you failed to find the chart. It is located in a non intuitive location.[:)]

The default national experience level chart is found in the Editor Manual at s.3.5.1.1

Alfred

My experience with training:
Leadership of leader of training airgroup = mostly affect on EXP of rookies
Inspiration = mostly affect on Skill which training
Admin = fatique
Skill = dont affect nothing or im dont see difference

For my training i use next trick - found airgroup with PILOT as Leader, add to group highest EXP pilot from pool (different type pilot even better), remove all other pilots and remove Leader, assign highest EXP pilot as Active pilot so he become as Leader with high probability of INSP/LEAD/ADMIN skills (rare cause when pilot cannnot be leader is his rank mismatched or promotion rank also mismatched with rank of usual leader). Another trick (if you have huge train group, restricted and dont have any other use but with fixed leader) - add to group few high Exp pilots and divide group, first section will have fixed poor leader, but another go your pilots as leaders.
Airgroups with fixed leader im use:
Restricted - train with replace leader (Insp/Lead) or without it (for partial train second skill like Strafe/Search etc).
Non-restricted - replace leader with needed skills and sent to action (section with fixed leader from trick above also can be used in action or as support - search, cap, recon etc).