RE: 1942 Axis strategy?
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:46 am
I alway thought this unit was one of th best Divs in the combined army??
ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
ORIGINAL: Ketza
Part of the difference was the 21 Panzer and Panzer grenadier units and multiple other divisions that were in France and Italy. Also the Luftwaffe was practically non existent on the eastern front in the summer of 44. The 2nd front recipe for disaster truly came to fruition in the summer of 44.
No doubt...was it that many? I am unclear on how the Panzers were distributed. I know during the June-July-Aug timeframe, it was approximately:
FRANCE: 2,9,11,21,Panzer Lehr; 1,2,9,10,12 SS Panzer; 17ss PzG. That is 11 in France.
ITALY: 26 Panzer; 3,15,29,90 PzG; HG Panzer; Hoch Und Deutschmeister Div; 16ss PzG. I might be missing a Panzer Div. That's 8 or 9.
I don't think anything was in Yugoslavia or Greece, though some of the SS formations in Yugoslavia were sometimes "upgraded" on paper.
ORIGINAL: Ketza
Part of the difference was the 21 Panzer and Panzer grenadier units and multiple other divisions that were in France and Italy. Also the Luftwaffe was practically non existent on the eastern front in the summer of 44. The 2nd front recipe for disaster truly came to fruition in the summer of 44.
ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
ORIGINAL: Ketza
Part of the difference was the 21 Panzer and Panzer grenadier units and multiple other divisions that were in France and Italy. Also the Luftwaffe was practically non existent on the eastern front in the summer of 44. The 2nd front recipe for disaster truly came to fruition in the summer of 44.
No doubt...was it that many? I am unclear on how the Panzers were distributed. I know during the June-July-Aug timeframe, it was approximately:
FRANCE: 2,9,11,21,Panzer Lehr; 1,2,9,10,12 SS Panzer; 17ss PzG. That is 11 in France.
ITALY: 26 Panzer; 3,15,29,90 PzG; HG Panzer; Hoch Und Deutschmeister Div; 16ss PzG. I might be missing a Panzer Div. That's 8 or 9.
I don't think anything was in Yugoslavia or Greece, though some of the SS formations in Yugoslavia were sometimes "upgraded" on paper.
ORIGINAL: leehunt27@bloomberg.net
I am playing the 1942 GC against a PBEM Russian opponent. As the Axis i am discovering that my best option seems to be wiping out as many Russian units as possible. It is mud, October 1942, and my summer offensive has bagged about 1.2 million Russians, including a large number of Tank Corps. I've lost about 200k Germans. I took Rostov and Voronzeh but backed away from the Caucausus and Stalingrad, instead focusing on the center. I waited a while before launching massive Panzer attacks SE of Moscow (seems a bit gamey to try a Kaluga pocket first few turns, Russian player doesn't have enough AP's to react realistically)-- attacks all focused on destroying the Russian army and not holding any space. The line is generally straight and consolidated.
I'm not sure how good a strategy this is, but the "Clausewitz" option of bagging Russians seems the most promising. Its not impossible I could take Moscow, but only if can lure the Russian 1943 offensive into a trap I think. My PBEM opponent and I agreed that trench warfare, with 5 lines of Fortification 4 or 5 hexes behind each front is gamey and not a choice for us. So the map be a jumbled swirl of offensives and counteroffensives until one side breaks...