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RE: Another classic to be replaced with a FP cover shooter...
Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:41 am
by Lieste
ORIGINAL: ilovestrategy
I'm gonna put in my two pennies here. As much as I love war-games, and I do love them, a big pain is clunky interfaces. War-games=click fest. Been that way since the 80s.
Not all. Just finished playing a run through of "Hofen Ho-Down" in BfTB, and I doubt I used more than 150 orders
in total for the 3 1/4 day battle (the vast majority as fire support missions) - major formation orders - something around 8-10 assaults, with some additional adjustment of HQ and artillery support locations... I can't say for sure, as I wasn't actually counting (or fighting the interface) but was concentrating on time and space problems for my pixeltruppen.
RE: Another classic to be replaced with a FP cover shooter...
Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:21 pm
by Jeffrey H.
ORIGINAL: Perturabo
What is tabletop gaming like in present times? Are there any interesting mechanics in games that you play?
I've found the whole FTF boardgaming culture to be in a nice renaissance from when I left it back in the mid 1980's.
The "euro" style games have filled a nice niche for casual players and even some more instense thinkers can get a decent challenge. Two of this type that come to mind are "Le Havre" and "Power Grid".
The wargaming side of it has really changed. Now hand cards have become more integrated and dice are less common. A really good example is the new "Combat Commander" series.
RE: Another classic to be replaced with a FP cover shooter...
Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:07 pm
by Perturabo
How are cards usually used in wargames?
Does any of these board wargames attempt to simulate command & control?
RE: Another classic to be replaced with a FP cover shooter...
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:14 am
by ilovestrategy
Thinking about this thread, I went to a table top gaming store and found that there are still groups that play my favorite table game, Starfleet Battles. Lots of Warhammer too.
RE: Another classic to be replaced with a FP cover shooter...
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:52 am
by Perturabo
There's only one tabletop wargaming store in my city and it sells exclusively Warhammer/Warhammer 40,000. It's quite weird talking in account that AFAIK Warhammer is one of the most expensive games to play..
I wanted to get into WHFB several years ago, I even bought a Chaos armybook and a box of Chaos Warriors but the miniatures turned out to be bad quality with poor proportions. I could have several boxes of high quality, well proportioned historical miniatures for that price.
Thus I got disillusioned and lost interest in Warhammer.
There used to be a store with more reasonably priced games with better miniatures like Infinity, Hordes and Warmachine and Flames of War but one day they completely moved to Magic the Gathering.
RE: Another classic to be replaced with a FP cover shooter...
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:44 am
by Phatguy
ORIGINAL: Terminus
Hey, newsflash to all the complainers: software developers don't owe you a damn thing. It's business.
Quit whining and don't buy it.[8|]
And yet you invariably whine about Paradox titles........
RE: Another classic to be replaced with a FP cover shooter...
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 2:29 pm
by Jeffrey H.
ORIGINAL: Perturabo
There's only one tabletop wargaming store in my city and it sells exclusively Warhammer/Warhammer 40,000. It's quite weird talking in account that AFAIK Warhammer is one of the most expensive games to play..
I wanted to get into WHFB several years ago, I even bought a Chaos armybook and a box of Chaos Warriors but the miniatures turned out to be bad quality with poor proportions. I could have several boxes of high quality, well proportioned historical miniatures for that price.
Thus I got disillusioned and lost interest in Warhammer.
There used to be a store with more reasonably priced games with better miniatures like Infinity, Hordes and Warmachine and Flames of War but one day they completely moved to Magic the Gathering.
I consider Warhammer to be the modern equivalent of D&D. Lots of young people get into it. Maybe more like axis and allies. Somewhere in there.
RE: Another classic to be replaced with a FP cover shooter...
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 2:31 pm
by Jeffrey H.
ORIGINAL: ilovestrategy
Thinking about this thread, I went to a table top gaming store and found that there are still groups that play my favorite table game, Starfleet Battles. Lots of Warhammer too.
Ever been to the one on Clairemont Mesa, right next to the 805 ? Generally Warhammer is all I see in there. Some other FRP types as well.
RE: Another classic to be replaced with a FP cover shooter...
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 6:31 pm
by ilovestrategy
I go there all the time Jeffrey. Im always looking for used Star Fleet Battles material. Good place.
RE: Another classic to be replaced with a FP cover shooter...
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:50 am
by Perturabo
ORIGINAL: Jeffrey H.
ORIGINAL: Perturabo
There's only one tabletop wargaming store in my city and it sells exclusively Warhammer/Warhammer 40,000. It's quite weird talking in account that AFAIK Warhammer is one of the most expensive games to play..
I wanted to get into WHFB several years ago, I even bought a Chaos armybook and a box of Chaos Warriors but the miniatures turned out to be bad quality with poor proportions. I could have several boxes of high quality, well proportioned historical miniatures for that price.
Thus I got disillusioned and lost interest in Warhammer.
There used to be a store with more reasonably priced games with better miniatures like Infinity, Hordes and Warmachine and Flames of War but one day they completely moved to Magic the Gathering.
I consider Warhammer to be the modern equivalent of D&D. Lots of young people get into it. Maybe more like axis and allies. Somewhere in there.
I wonder why it's so popular, though. It's one of the most expensive systems. Judging by what I've seen in the store that later moved to MtG, other systems can be equally popular if given a chance.
RE: Another classic to be replaced with a FP cover shooter...
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:18 pm
by ilovestrategy
Because Warhammer has the "cool" factor! [:D]
RE: Another classic to be replaced with a FP cover shooter...
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:33 pm
by Perturabo
ORIGINAL: ilovestrategy
Because Warhammer has the "cool" factor! [:D]
Still, the store that later turned entirely to MtG was full of Warmachine and Hordes players, so I think that the less cool systems can be popular too when given a chance.
RE: Another classic to be replaced with a FP cover shooter...
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:07 pm
by Jeffrey H.
ORIGINAL: ilovestrategy
I go there all the time Jeffrey. Im always looking for used Star Fleet Battles material. Good place.
SFB was played at our gaming club last month. One of the guys is a big fan of SFB. We get together on the second Saturday of every month at the bowling alley on base. The club founder is a former marine. A few of the other guys are either former or active. Plus a bunch of us nerds. We typically get around 8 or so people to show. Sometimes less sometimes more.
RE: Another classic to be replaced with a FP cover shooter...
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:19 pm
by ilovestrategy
Dang, too bad I'm a civilian, that sounds like fun.
RE: Another classic to be replaced with a FP cover shooter...
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:40 am
by milkweg
ORIGINAL: Terminus
Hey, newsflash to all the complainers: software developers don't owe you a damn thing. It's business.
Quit whining and don't buy it.[8|]
Sure, I can do that but then the game makers will whine that they are going out of business because we won't buy their crap-ware. You ever complain about bad movies or are you just always spineless and take everything up the rear?
RE: Another classic to be replaced with a FP cover shooter...
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:42 am
by milkweg
ORIGINAL: ilovestrategy
I have to agree with Terminus on this one.
Then it is you that sucks and not Emos.
RE: Another classic to be replaced with a FP cover shooter...
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:12 am
by Hanal
Damn Milkweg, you certainly are in a good mood...what's the problem, is your hand in a cast so you could not get laid this morning?
RE: Another classic to be replaced with a FP cover shooter...
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:38 pm
by Perturabo
ORIGINAL: milkweg
You ever complain about bad movies or are you just always spineless and take everything up the rear?
NMA poster detected.
RE: Another classic to be replaced with a FP cover shooter...
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:18 pm
by milkweg
ORIGINAL: J P Falcon
Damn Milkweg, you certainly are in a good mood...what's the problem, is your hand in a cast so you could not get laid this morning?
Oh no, it's Jonah Falcon, the game critic everyone loves to hate.
RE: Another classic to be replaced with a FP cover shooter...
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:20 pm
by milkweg
ORIGINAL: Perturabo
NMA poster detected.
I am not a member of the National Mining Association.