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RE: TAIYOs
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:32 pm
by Shark7
I've found you get much better info on the individual ships by reading their TROM (Tabular Record of Movement). You can find them for the Taiyo's here:
http://www.combinedfleet.com/cvlist.htm
Reading through it seems Taiyo never actually carried an organic air group, but was rather used as an aircraft ferry or troop transport through out the war, for example.
RE: TAIYOs
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:59 pm
by Puhis
ORIGINAL: inqistor
Keeping planes on deck is similar to operating from field airfield.
No, it really is NOT similar... [8|]
Most of those airgroups seems to be hogwash (like Hosho carrying B5Ns in 6/1942), so I wouldn't refer that page...
RE: TAIYOs
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 1:22 pm
by Shark7
ORIGINAL: Puhis
ORIGINAL: inqistor
Keeping planes on deck is similar to operating from field airfield.
No, it really is NOT similar... [8|]
Most of those airgroups seems to be hogwash (like Hosho carrying B5Ns in 6/1942), so I wouldn't refer that page...
Exactly, during the Midway operation, Hosho carried 8 B4Y Jean, it never carried Kates.
RE: TAIYOs
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:20 pm
by inqistor
Well, I hope they got their data somewhere, not guessed it. TROMs have different details for different ships. YAMATO lists every upgrade, but for TAIYOs there is not even information what type of mission they were under, during trips. They constantly traveled to Truk, but only in few cases there is explicit mention, that they transported planes.
Anyway, I forgot that I have document about Japanese CVs. It shows TAIYO Flight Deck at 172 meters, and its elevators at 12x13m, so it was lengthened (or already build longer, than 150m), and elevator size is pretty standard. Also, there is part about transporting planes on deck, and arresting gear (again, if they were converted without it, it was added later):
RE: TAIYOs
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:07 am
by inqistor
Not exactly TAIYOs, but
interesting part in the KAIYO TROM:
21 April 1944:
At 0700, departs Singapore with kaibokan ETOFORU, IKI, SHIMUSHU, CD-8 and CD-9 escorting convoy HI-58 consisting of oilers ITSUKUSHIMA, RYOEI, OMUROSAN and OTOWASAN MARUs, troop transport SHINSHU MARU, and probably ZUIHO and MAYASAN MARUs.
That same day, one of KAIYO's attack planes sights LtCdr Manning M. Kimmel's (son of former CINCPAC, ADM H. E. Kimmel) USS ROBALO (SS-273) on the surface about 15 miles behind the convoy. The plane drops two bombs on ROBALO and calls for assistance. IKI and CD-9 arrive and drop depth charges. ROBALO is damaged, but escapes.
No mention earlier, that it had airgroups, or loaded any planes NOT for transport, and suddenly it seems it operated attack planes in ASW duty.