RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) vs Dan Nichols (A)
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:46 pm
by obvert
Thanks for that, or uh, not really. GreyJoy, going to levels most of us can't hope to reach.
Dec. 7, 1941
After some nail biting and severe doubting of my settings, I received the turn back from Dan and watched the replay. I won't say yet this was the opening I had hoped for, but there were no major disasters and some minor successes. Dan showed with a few small moves that he will be an opponent to reckon with and be wary of.
Pearl Harbor
I set one less Kate group to torpedo and I think this was not the best choice. I figured the 800kg bombs might do nearly as much damage to the BBs and if they hit something else, really tear a hole in it. Instead, the BBs did their job, ate a bunch of bombs, and none were reported to have sunk outright. Some of the hits on other ships do look like big 800kg hits, especially the DDs that did sink.
One suicide sub impaled itself only after actually launching torpedoes and scoring a hit on the Maryland. Miracle! The rest floundered in various ways as usual.
I had one group of Zeros attacking the airfields at 100ft, a group of Vals and one of Kates bombing as well, and came away with what looks like mediocre airframe destruction. Lots of damaged planes reported, but also a lot more than are actually there, so obviously those are not on the mark.
As a result of this inconclusive set of reports, I will attack again on turn 2. I only lost a few A6M2s on the day, so I'm prepared to take heavier losses for one more day to make sure I've made a dent here.
One of Dan's subs went right to the KB and launched 4 torps at Soryu, but luckily all missed. I sent the KB out west and then back in on an arc, and put a whole flood of subs in between tomorrow's launch point and Pearl, so hopefully any enterprising SCTFs or subs will hit those first. I also set a few Pete's to night search and some to ASW at 2 hexes around the KB.
I'm nervous about the oilers up there all alone (which were detected at 7/7), but if he goes for it with the Enterprise TF I'll come hard after him the next day.
DEI
The only unconventional move here was to send the Manado TF from Samah to Singawang on a quick TF. Dan was smart and kept his Swordies on 8 hex range, and hit two xAKs unloading. One went down with a few troops and the other is now going to try to limp back to Saigon. I got 55 AV ashore, and think this might take the place considering the state of the KNIL battalion there and its low moral. If it doesn't, there's no great damage, as he can't move a lot in there quickly, but I'd like to get it quick and set up the airfield.
Dutch subs went right after the TFs around Malaya, and he also got an xAK at Patani.
Phillippenes
The port bombing at Manilla hit 11 subs with a bomb each, so not bad there. I'll keep it up until it looks like nothing is left in there. We hit some B-17s on the ground at Clark, but again not sure how many really.
Apparri and Vigan invasions are on, Legaspi is not, but is heading to Ambon instead. More on that soon. Legaspi 2 is heading to Antimonan, but won't arrive for a while.
China
It's be quiet here for a while as I organize garrisons and rest divisions back to full strength. I'm more concerned with cutting supply by getting to Burma quickly than hurrying here. I did hit Hong Kong Port and Changsha airfield. I'll be bringing a few new Sally groups in soon, changing out the Nates, and once things are more settled start moving toward Sian, chasing random Chinese corps around, and hoping to land at Pakhoi and head up toward Nanning.
Wake Invasion
Put together the Tarawa and Wake invasions and they're heading up to Wake. I'm nervous about the Lexington TF moving in, so with the day 2 Pearl strike, I'll head this back to the Marshals for a few days until I know the coast is clear.
Combat Reports
I won't always post lengthy combat reports, but for this and other crucial turns I will. I'd welcome any thoughts about the PH attack especially, and the situation with the US CVTFs and their likely movements.
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 07, 41
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Midget Sub attack inside harbor of Pearl Harbor!!!
Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-24, hits 6, heavy damage
Allied Ships
BB Maryland, Torpedo hits 1
PC Taney
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Sub attack near Patani at 52,72
Japanese Ships
xAK Meiten Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PB Eiko Maru
Allied Ships
SS KXVII
Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
SS KXVII launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Meiten Maru
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Singkawang at 56,88, Range 21,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
DD Fubuki
DD Usugumo
DD Shirayuki
DD Hatsuyuki
APD Fuji
TB Hiyodori
PB Heiei Maru #7
xAK Syoka Maru
xAK Rokko Maru
xAK Igasa Maru
xAKL Ryoyu Maru #21
xAKL Sasago Maru
Allied Ships
CL Danae
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 21,000 yards
Japanese TF attempts to evade combat
Range increases to 21,000 yards...
Japanese Amphibious TF evades combat
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Morning Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 72 NM, estimated altitude 2,100 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 80
B5N2 Kate x 144
D3A1 Val x 135
Allied aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 damaged
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed by flak
B5N2 Kate: 3 damaged
D3A1 Val: 7 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 38 damaged
PBY-5 Catalina: 98 damaged
PBY-5 Catalina: 7 destroyed on ground
P-36A Mohawk: 18 damaged
P-36A Mohawk: 3 destroyed on ground
SBD-1 Dauntless: 21 damaged
SBD-1 Dauntless: 3 destroyed on ground
B-17E Fortress: 17 damaged
B-18A Bolo: 23 damaged
B-18A Bolo: 2 destroyed on ground
P-40B Warhawk: 43 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 3 destroyed on ground
F4F-3 Wildcat: 6 damaged
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed on ground
O-47A: 7 damaged
O-47A: 1 destroyed on ground
A-20A Havoc: 17 damaged
A-20A Havoc: 3 destroyed on ground
C-33: 4 damaged
R3D-2: 3 damaged
Allied Ships
BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 12, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB California, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 9, heavy fires
CL St. Louis, Bomb hits 1
BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires
CL Helena, Bomb hits 2
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
AR Vestal, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CA San Francisco, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 5, on fire
PT-30, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
CL Phoenix, Bomb hits 1
DD Dale, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AO Neosho, Bomb hits 1
DD Farragut, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
DD Cummings, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
SS Cachalot, Bomb hits 1
DD Schley, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
DD Jarvis, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
AV Wright, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CA New Orleans, Bomb hits 2, on fire
DM Montgomery, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
Repair Shipyard hits 3
Airbase hits 31
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 47
Port hits 23
Port fuel hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
16 x A6M2 Zero bombing from 100 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
12 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
City Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
18 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
11 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
18 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 10000 feet
13 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
10 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
11 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
19 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
12 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
12 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
18th PG/6th PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
Training flight from 18th PG/6th PS has been caught up in attack
Magazine explodes on DD Dale
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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
Allied aircraft
P-40B Warhawk x 1
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet
CAP engaged:
24th PG/HqS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 15
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 5 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet
CAP engaged:
No.67 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 10 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 13 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
G3M2 Nell x 27
G4M1 Betty x 27
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
SS Perch, Bomb hits 1
SS Tarpon, Bomb hits 1
SS Swordfish, Bomb hits 1
DD Pillsbury, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
SS Searaven, Bomb hits 1
SS Porpoise, Bomb hits 1
SS Stingray, Bomb hits 1
AM Whippoorwill, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
AV Langley, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
SS Permit, Bomb hits 1
SS Sargo, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
AVD Childs, Bomb hits 1, on fire
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
27 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 15000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
27 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 15000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
8 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet *
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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 56 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 36
G3M2 Nell x 9
G4M1 Betty x 54
Allied aircraft
no flights
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
P-35A: 8 damaged
P-35A: 1 destroyed on ground
B-17D Fortress: 24 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 7 damaged
O-47A: 5 damaged
O-47A: 1 destroyed on ground
Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 39
Aircraft Attacking:
27 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
27 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
9 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
4 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Japanese aircraft
B5N1 Kate x 12
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
AVD William B. Preston, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
Port hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 5000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Kota Bharu , at 51,75
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 3,100 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
Ki-27b Nate x 44
Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 15
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 4 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 3 destroyed
Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 22
Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Ki-27b Nate sweeping at 10000 feet
12 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 10000 feet
15 x Ki-27b Nate bombing from 100 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 50 kg GP Bomb
4 x Ki-27b Nate bombing from 100 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 plane(s) with no ordnance
Airfield Attack: 2 x 50 kg GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
No.21 Sqn RAAF with Buffalo I (15 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(15 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
15 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
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Morning Air attack on Kota Bharu , at 51,75
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 48
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 24
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 32
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 30
Allied aircraft
no flights
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 38 damaged
Hudson I: 2 destroyed on ground
Vildebeest III: 3 damaged
Vildebeest III: 1 destroyed on ground
Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 18
Airbase supply hits 13
Runway hits 42
Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
30 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
12 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 10000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 18
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
SS Saury, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
SS S-37, Bomb hits 1
SS Sealion, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Port hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 15000 feet *
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Hong Kong , at 77,61
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 7
Ki-44 Tojo x 5
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 12
Ki-51 Sonia x 24
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 damaged
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 damaged
Allied Ships
xAK Nanning, Bomb hits 2
xAK Hai Lee, Bomb hits 2, on fire
xAKL Yat Shing, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Hinsang, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
xAK Munlock, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Hanyang, Bomb hits 1
xAK Fatshan, Bomb hits 1
Repair Shipyard hits 7
Port hits 5
Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 50 kg GP Bomb
5 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
7 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
13 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 50 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Changsha , at 82,52
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 7
Ki-51 Sonia x 12
Allied aircraft
no flights
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
DB-3M: 1 damaged
SB-III: 2 damaged
A-29A Hudson: 1 damaged
Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 18
Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 50 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 36
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 33
Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 1
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 23
Aircraft Attacking:
36 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
12 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar sweeping at 10000 feet
CAP engaged:
No.67 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 18
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
xAK Indira, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
HDML 1103, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Mundra, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Agnes, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Chaksang, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Chilka, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Hermelin, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
xAKL Ardent, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
HDML 1104, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
Port hits 4
Port fuel hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
18 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 36
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 27
Allied aircraft
P-26A x 4
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
P-26A: 1 destroyed
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 10
Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb
15 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet
9 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet
CAP engaged:
6th PS PAAC with P-26A (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
24th PG/20th PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes
Training flight from 24th PG/20th PS has been caught up in attack
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Patani at 51,73
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 9
Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 7
Hudson I x 4
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
Hudson I: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Japanese Ships
CA Kumano
AK Tosan Maru
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Hudson I bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
3 x Blenheim I bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
77th Sentai Det A with Ki-27b Nate (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
1st Sentai with Ki-27b Nate (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Raid is overhead
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Singkawang at 56,88
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 2 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes
Allied aircraft
Swordfish I x 5
B-339D x 3
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
xAK Syoka Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Igasa Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
Japanese ground losses:
475 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 22 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Swordfish I bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
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Sub attack near Pearl Harbor at 180,104
Japanese Ships
CV Soryu
CA Tone
DD Akigumo
DD Kasumi
DD Arare
DD Tanikaze
DD Hamakaze
Allied Ships
SS Plunger
SS Plunger launches 4 torpedoes at CV Soryu
DD Kasumi fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Arare fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Tanikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hamakaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Tanikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tanikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tanikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
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Ground combat at Singkawang (56,88)
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 787 troops, 5 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 30
Defending force 1432 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 55
Assaulting units:
West Borneo KNIL Battalion
Singkawang Base Force
Defending units:
15th Nav Gd /1
8th JNAF Coy /1
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RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) vs Dan Nichols (A)
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:30 am
by obvert
9 Dec 1941
I've just run the next turn, and as it turns out Jzanes was right on the money. He was playing a shell game with ALL of the PH ships, sending them to Lahaina and Hilo. I changed my previous KB course and ran it down 3 hexes from both ports and launched 3 hex naval/port strikes with all groups minus the 1 Kate group on 9 hex search (70%) recon (30%).
I suspect he sent a good number of the fast DDs CLs and CAs that were undamaged out toward the US, but I'm not positive still about this. My recon still shows Pearl empty and 3 ships in Lahaina (1 BB) and none in Hilo. I have a good idea of what happended to the ships in Hilo, however.
Hawaii
The KB got a good shot at numerous support, merchant, auxilliary, and patrol ships that had been shuffled out of PH last turn to Lahaina (I suspect) and this turn went toward Hilo. I haven't counted everything up, and the ships sunk chart doesn't show half of the ships that I watched getting demolished in the replay, but it looks like we took out a fair number of these ships. I'll look through the replay again and document the losses for the more comprehensive post to come. I think his bluff was called this turn, and he lost a big pot on this one. Hats off to Jzanes to giving me the heads up to consider some other options.
This is the difficult and exciting part of beginning to play a human opponent. I do have to adjust my thinking to take in more possible choices, and learn to better predict the one he will choose.
I did commit one serious and long lasting blunder this turn. I sent two Glenn subs, (including the I-25) one hex from PH. I had them set for a 1 hex react, but never thought they'd step into the minefield at PH to react to a couple of PCs there! This will hurt, I know. I guess I'll have to pick a new sub to follow. Hopefully this will not become a trend, but as I'm not superstitious, I'm going forward and will choose another this weekend. Preferably one sitting in the middle of the Pacific somewhere.
PI
The convoys came close to shore and encountered numerous PT and sub attacks. One PT group avoided the SCTFs and knocked out a DMS, but no merchants were hit. This 3 PT TF then got wiped by the accompanying CLs and DDs. Subs all missing, thankfully. It did push my amphib TF back fro the landing though, so I wasted a turn here. More DDs will come in tomorrow before the TF moves forward toward Vigan.
No flights over the PI as I wait for closer airfields. Several small merchants fro Hong Kong were hit by the Netties.
Malaya
Subs continued to try out the ASW around the convoys unloading. KXII paid the ultimate price with 13 hits and is listed as sunk. No ships lost here this turn. We also hit a good number of uncapped merchants fleeing the area through the straits. At least 4 xAKs and the Vendetta, which took a torp from a Betty and went down. Escorts flew with them this turn, but I might have to try narrow search arcs tomorrow as well to avoid the CAP I suspect will be over these ships.
On land we're beginning the long pursuit toward Singapore.
DEI
The Legaspi invasion is heading for Ambon. It has been detected, but I'm going ahead as there is good Surface cover and the Mini KB is near, hitting ships and obviously supporting this op. Hopefully the Boise et al will give it a pass, but if they come in, I assume our SCTF can hold it's own. I'm going to send a couple DDs as a decoy to Boela to bombard.
Central Pacific
Tarawa is ours, but I'm surprised this convoy didn't get plastered this turn by the Lexington TF. He knew where it was going. This makes me suspect he's hanging around Wake. I'll up the recon and see if the Wildcats are still there. Or he may have just hightailed it for the North or the South. The Wake invasion turned back and is near Kwajalein, as one of my scouting subs had a 3/3 detection rating about 10 hexes east of Wotje last turn. This has to be a CVTF. Nothing else around.
China
The AVG showed up in Changsha, which is great. I began bombing there immediately, but let the units be filled with fresh replacement pilots just in case. He jumped and I lost 4 Nates and 5 Sonias. But now at least one section of the AVG is out of Burma and the DEI, which suits me just fine.
HI
Setting up convoys and refits. Lots of scrambling ships and clicking.
RE: South of the Border, West of the Sun - obvert (J) vs Dan Nichols (A)
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:12 am
by obvert
It looks like the KB attacks of Dec 9 took out most of the Aux, merchant, and Patrol/escort ships that had been in Pearl, as well as all of the slow mine warfare ships. These were all of the slow ships, and there are a few more out there I might have a look for in the upcoming days:
AV Curtis [spd 20] and Tangier [spd 17]
AO Neosho [spd 18] (1 bomb hit Dec 7)
PC Taney [spd 21]
BBs - 3-4 should still be afloat either in Lahaina, Hilo, PH, or on the way east or south. [spd21] (All of these should be slower than this as they were all hit in the Dec 7 attack)
All DMS (4) and DM (7 left, DM Montgomery sunk Dec 7 ) must have high-tailed it out with the remaining DD (about 25 left), CL (6 - 3 hit Dec 7) and CA (2 - both hit Dec 7 and on fire, so possibly slowed) .
Here is the attack list from Dec 7:
BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 12, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB California, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 9, heavy fires
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 5, on fire
BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CA New Orleans, Bomb hits 2, on fire
CA San Francisco, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires
CL St. Louis, Bomb hits 1
CL Helena, Bomb hits 2
CL Phoenix, Bomb hits 1
AO Neosho, Bomb hits 1
DD Dale, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
DD Schley, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
DD Jarvis, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
DD Cummings, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
DD Farragut, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
DM Montgomery, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk