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RE: Only AA icon type conducts AA combat.

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:20 am
by Panama
Yes. When I read this I wondered if and how often field artillery was used in this manner.

RE: Only AA icon type conducts AA combat.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:29 am
by ColinWright
ORIGINAL: Panama

Yes. When I read this I wondered if and how often field artillery was used in this manner.

I assume the Russians were forced to improvise. Having a gross deficiency of AA pieces, they must have issued time-fused shrapnel shells to their artillery and told them to do what they could.

Better than just sitting there and taking it, anyway. And as the piece asserts, even the most inaccurate flak is better than nothing at all. Flak shells bursting all over the place make it hard to concentrate on the target and make you inclined to call it a day and go away rather than hunting down fugitive gunners until your fuel or ammo runs out.

RE: Only AA icon type conducts AA combat.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:36 pm
by Curtis Lemay
ORIGINAL: ColinWright

Charming guy. You indeed had nothing to do with the 'mistake.' I never said you had anything to do with the 'mistake.' It was your 'repair' that was the problem. I did note that it being a matter of a 100-fold change was only my understanding, whatever it was the change was certainly excessive, and you (rather predictably) attempted to defend the results. It'll be interesting to see if you continue to attempt to do so. At a guess, you probably will.

You are a pathological liar. Which, I guess, passes for "charm" in Colin-land. And I now assume you will continue to spout this lie endlessly. That's what pathological liars do.

The only AAA fix I had anything to do with was in 3.4 item IV 1 - which reduced AAA lethality by a factor of 0.4 (a correction based upon rigorous tests I had run on AAA lethality), and 3.4 item XII 1 which created an editor scale factor for AAA lethality - which allows designers to set AAA lethality to whatever they want, even zero. In other words, I had the problem fixed. It is no longer an issue since 3.4 has been released.

Who was originally responsible for the problem? Probably no one. I expect it was just a bug that slipped in and wasn't noticed for some time. Kind of like the bug this thread was about. Perhaps you can now fabricate some elaborate lie about my causing that one too.

RE: Only AA icon type conducts AA combat.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:29 pm
by ColinWright
ORIGINAL: Curtis Lemay




You are a pathological liar. Which, I guess, passes for "charm" in Colin-land. And I now assume you will continue to spout this lie endlessly. That's what pathological liars do.

...

...Perhaps you can now fabricate some elaborate lie about my causing that one too.

!

Even if I was so inclined, I don't see why there would be any need to fabricate much of anything about you. The truth more or less speaks for itself.
...In other words, I had the problem fixed. It is no longer an issue since 3.4 has been released...

You're a gold mine. 'Fixed' -- except for the minor detail that AA doesn't work at all now -- and hasn't for something on the order of six months. Any other repairs you're contemplating? If so, hopefully they won't be left in place quite for as long as this one.

Keep posting. I'd actually rather discuss improving AA with someone, but if you want to keep bantering, I've got quite a few reserves I just haven't bothered to deploy.

RE: Only AA icon type conducts AA combat.

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:24 pm
by Curtis Lemay
ORIGINAL: ColinWright

Even if I was so inclined, I don't see why there would be any need to fabricate much of anything about you. The truth more or less speaks for itself.

You're absolutely right. This was entirely my fault. There you were, innocently fabricating elaborate lies about me and I had the effrontery to call you on it. What an insensitive thing to do. You should have the right to fabricate any lie you care to about anyone and how dare they object!
You're a gold mine. 'Fixed' -- except for the minor detail that AA doesn't work at all now -- and hasn't for something on the order of six months. Any other repairs you're contemplating? If so, hopefully they won't be left in place quite for as long as this one.

The lethality of AAA has been fixed - that was the topic. The problem with AAA and icons is a totally different issue and trying to confuse it with the lethality issue is just another way to lie. And it was just a bug that cropped up. Nobody was responsible for it. But I gather you now claim that I intentionally created that one. Just one more lie from a pathological liar.

RE: Only AA icon type conducts AA combat.

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:15 pm
by ColinWright
ORIGINAL: Curtis Lemay
ORIGINAL: ColinWright

Even if I was so inclined, I don't see why there would be any need to fabricate much of anything about you. The truth more or less speaks for itself.

You're absolutely right. This was entirely my fault. There you were, innocently fabricating elaborate lies about me and I had the effrontery to call you on it. What an insensitive thing to do. You should have the right to fabricate any lie you care to about anyone and how dare they object!
You're a gold mine. 'Fixed' -- except for the minor detail that AA doesn't work at all now -- and hasn't for something on the order of six months. Any other repairs you're contemplating? If so, hopefully they won't be left in place quite for as long as this one.

The lethality of AAA has been fixed - that was the topic. The problem with AAA and icons is a totally different issue and trying to confuse it with the lethality issue is just another way to lie. And it was just a bug that cropped up. Nobody was responsible for it. But I gather you now claim that I intentionally created that one. Just one more lie from a pathological liar.

Seriously, guy. I just don't have time for this, it gets me in a bad mood, and it's majestically pointless on a number of scores.

Anyone want to talk about how AA could be improved?

RE: Only AA icon type conducts AA combat.

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:05 am
by rhinobones
ORIGINAL: ColinWright
Seriously, guy. I just don't have time for this, it gets me in a bad mood . . .

Colin "might" be getting into a bad mood . . . now that's news! Must be that time of the month. No, wait a minute . . . he's always in a bad mood. Maybe he's just going through a really, really long month and can't find a place to stick the AA.

Regards, RhinoBones

RE: Only AA icon type conducts AA combat.

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:42 am
by ColinWright
ORIGINAL: rhinobones

ORIGINAL: ColinWright
Seriously, guy. I just don't have time for this, it gets me in a bad mood . . .

Colin "might" be getting into a bad mood . . . now that's news! Must be that time of the month. No, wait a minute . . . he's always in a bad mood. Maybe he's just going through a really, really long month and can't find a place to stick the AA.

Regards, RhinoBones

If you run into Curtis LeMay, will there be some kind of cosmic event that results in both of you disappearing?

RE: Only AA icon type conducts AA combat.

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:26 am
by rhinobones
ORIGINAL: ColinWright

If you run into Curtis LeMay, will there be some kind of cosmic event that results in both of you disappearing?

Hardly. I don't associate with people that have avatars with things that look like ____s sticking out of their mouths. You, on the other hand, probably have one stuck up . . . a cosmic event.
Regards, RhinoBones

RE: Only AA icon type conducts AA combat.

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:59 am
by Panama
Is there no longer a monitor for this forum? [&:]

RE: Only AA icon type conducts AA combat.

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:48 am
by Oberst_Klink
Folks,

Panama is right and what about your 'promises' to pull on one string in order to 'serve' the community and improve the gaming experience for A L L of us? Flame wars are certainly not the preferred method to improve the situation, eh? So please, let's all focus on the release of 3.5, shall we?

From Cyprus with love (and a major headache),

Klink, Oberst

RE: Only AA icon type conducts AA combat.

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:10 pm
by ColinWright
ORIGINAL: rhinobones

ORIGINAL: ColinWright

If you run into Curtis LeMay, will there be some kind of cosmic event that results in both of you disappearing?

Hardly. I don't associate with people that have avatars with things that look like ____s sticking out of their mouths. You, on the other hand, probably have one stuck up . . . a cosmic event.
Regards, RhinoBones

That's so inane it's not even annoying. You've only managed to humiliate yourself.

Curtis can (and does) drive me to fury. You're just pathetic. I'm somewhat chagrined at the thought that if only by comparison I'm commenting positively on Curtis here -- but it is nice to dispose of you so easily.

RE: Only AA icon type conducts AA combat.

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:04 pm
by ColinWright
ORIGINAL: Panama

Is there no longer a monitor for this forum? [&:]

I have the impression Curtis is the moderator. At least, he's made comments that suggest he sees himself playing that role.

If so, it's morbidly comic.

RE: Only AA icon type conducts AA combat.

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:12 pm
by BigDuke66
Only thing I care at the moment is when will we see 3.5? Or a beta with this fix? Or at least a quick fix?
It surely brings up trouble when your airpower is weak and you hope for the AA in all those tank, infantry, etc. units will help but if it doesn't it is really a pain in the ass.
I see that just in my Göttderdämmerungs scenario, where it is already bad enough that Russian air units help western Allies ground units and vice versa but without AA working in any of those ground units I can see why he has come so far without ever conducting a real offensive.

RE: Only AA icon type conducts AA combat.

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:06 am
by sPzAbt653
Russian air units help western Allies ground units

Maybe a Formation Support Scope change will help this ?

RE: Only AA icon type conducts AA combat.

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:31 am
by BigDuke66
Not really, even if only set down to force support we have problems because in the west with British in brown, US in Green and French in olive, and on the other side with the Russians in red & brown(like the Brits), Yugoslavian units in brown(like the Brits) and Romanian unit in light tan we can't really separate the western air units from the eastern air units.