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RE: Carrier Battle with !scary! results
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:49 am
by WITPPL
ORIGINAL: n01487477
Yeah [8|] - 3 destroyed, 12 damaged to A2A. V 14 destroyed 11 damaged to A2A
Think you need to re-assess my friend.
I know results from CRep but i was also watching animations very closely. IJN DBs and TBs literally bounced (and missed targets in result) from USN AA fire while USN were not giving a damn about it.
Any way: 2% vs 20% is something that should be noticed. In 42 with fresh elite IJN.
RE: Carrier Battle with !scary! results
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:52 am
by LoBaron
ORIGINAL: WITPPL
IJN hace plenty of Nav search cap. My carrier TFs had plenty of search cap. Subs can add too. I came undetected and I was able to strike Luganville turn earlier. Yes, I was detected after Luganville atack. [:D]
Ok so add pilot fatigue and increased USN situational awareness due to Luganvillle strike.
I know a couple of players (including myself) who would have sent you back to Shortlands in rafts,
with low damage to their own fleet. You were lucky given the situation. [;)]
RE: Carrier Battle with !scary! results
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:52 am
by WITPPL
ORIGINAL: castor troy
It clearly was weather. Severe storms vs. heavy cloud. Everything that is not something with rain is "good" weather when it comes down to hits and everything from light rain to thunderstorms is bad. It hits both sides the same and we have seen this happening how many times already?
wow, in two days I turn into a game defending ranter.
Troy, where am I against the game exactly? [8D]
Probably weather, although based on animated combat reports I blame USN flak.
RE: Carrier Battle with !scary! results
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:54 am
by WITPPL
@LoBaron: Pilots were under 15 fatigue.
RE: Carrier Battle with !scary! results
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:55 am
by LoBaron
Every bit helps. [;)]
RE: Carrier Battle with !scary! results
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:56 am
by denisonh
One result is not enough to evaluate the model. Any good combat model will have a wide range of outcomes. This is not chess. Given the complexities of layering different models together and expecting the overall result to be the "expected outcome" is unrealistic. The chaos inherent with modeling combat that has very few observations and multiple contributing factors requires this range of outcomes so you can achieve a "Midway" like outcome.
Somebody has to pick up the slack now that Herwin has passed.........
RE: Carrier Battle with !scary! results
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:01 am
by WITPPL
That is why we love this game so much.
Edit: I hate apple keyboards
RE: Carrier Battle with !scary! results
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:40 am
by Blackhorse
ORIGINAL: denisonh
One result is not enough to evaluate the model. Any good combat model will have a wide range of outcomes. This is not chess. Given the complexities of layering different models together and expecting the overall result to be the "expected outcome" is unrealistic. The chaos inherent with modeling combat that has very few observations and multiple contributing factors requires this range of outcomes so you can achieve a "Midway" like outcome.
Somebody has to pick up the slack now that Herwin has passed.........
You're not there, yet. I actually understood what you were saying. [;)]
, , , to Herwin
RE: Carrier Battle with !scary! results
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:09 pm
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: castor troy
wow, in two days I turn into a game defending ranter.
Go Castor Troy!!! [:)]
RE: Carrier Battle with !scary! results
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:28 pm
by Yaab
250 kg AP vs 1000lb SAP. Nothing to see here, move along!
RE: Carrier Battle with !scary! results
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:38 pm
by crsutton
I am glad that Admiral Nagumo was not posting on this forum after the battle of Midway......We would have had to set him straight.[;)]
RE: Carrier Battle with !scary! results
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:40 pm
by WITPPL
[:D][:D][:D]
RE: Carrier Battle with !scary! results
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:22 pm
by crsutton
God, I posted the same thing twice...Pass it off as a senior moment..