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RE: What is this?
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:51 pm
by Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: CT Grognard
Interesting, Shark7. I reckon you might be a close. Here's a view of the Heinkel He-115.
Yes, interesting. Look at the "rectangular" panel on the leading edge of the wings between the nacelle and the fuselage. It seems to match the panel which has been peeled up (to canibalize parts? or maybe for inspection?) in the wreck.
In the wreck, I think the wings near the fuselage do belong to the wrecked fuselage or they wouldn't be suspended in a coaxial fashion like that. Something very unpleasant did happen to the aircraft. [;)]
RE: What is this?
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:55 pm
by Cap Mandrake
Also the semi-rectangular fuselage seems to match if you take away the plexiglass nose which would be missing from the wreck.
RE: What is this?
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:07 pm
by CT Grognard
Here's another view of the Heinkel He 115, so you can get a better idea of the fuselage
shape once the nose has been removed:

RE: What is this?
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:23 pm
by Apollo11
Hi all,
Very interesting - thanks guys!
Leo "Apollo11"
RE: What is this?
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:26 pm
by crsutton
I think the wings are set too low on the body to be an HE115. However, it is apparent that somebody was trying to perserve or salvage the wreck by mounting it on that wooden platform. You got to figure that in 1945-nobody was wasting time with any of the thousands of vanilla wrecks littering the ground. This plane must have been worth the effort. A prototype of some sort, perhaps.
RE: What is this?
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:50 pm
by Dili
Yeah i already had said the He115 above but the crsutton point about wing level and the size is what made me change to leo451.
RE: What is this?
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:51 am
by CT Grognard
Here are some photo's of the Liore et Olivier 451:


RE: What is this?
Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:12 pm
by Dili
I don't think it can be a Leo with that engine nacelles.
RE: What is this?
Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:10 pm
by Jaroen
@Dili
How about the window frames on the front side?
Where do you figure the nose is cut to not see those side windows but a full cockpit with room to spare?
In addition, the LeO looks oval shaped and not round/squared.
But those engine nacelles, yes!
Here's an earlier version of the He-111 I was talking about:

RE: What is this?
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:24 am
by geofflambert
Crap if I know, but let's check with the experts:

RE: What is this?
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:30 pm
by zuluhour
Since I'm post happy today, heres an easy one for JFBs:

RE: What is this?
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:49 pm
by koniu
Since I'm post happy today, heres an easy one for JFBs:
Not sure but i think N1K1-J George
RE: What is this?
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:52 pm
by zuluhour
A winner:

RE: What is this?
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:02 pm
by Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: zuluhour
Since I'm post happy today, heres an easy one for JFBs:
Wow...that really looks like a P-47 rip-off. Capable-looking aircraft.
RE: What is this?
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:29 pm
by bbbf
It's convergent evolution - big radial engine, bubble canopies and lots of large calibre weapons in the wings lead to similar looking aircraft, although i think a Thud sitting next to it would be a good deal bigger.
RE: What is this?
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:07 pm
by John 3rd
Where were those pictures taken?
RE: What is this?
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:07 pm
by JeffroK
Smithsonian?
Not many B29's hanging off a roof.
PS bbbf - There is a Jug sitting next to it.
RE: What is this?
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:10 pm
by John 3rd
NEVER been to the new Air Museum and would love to go!
RE: What is this?
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:12 pm
by JeffroK
ORIGINAL: bbbf
It's convergent evolution - big radial engine, bubble canopies and lots of large calibre weapons in the wings lead to similar looking aircraft, although i think a Thud sitting next to it would be a good deal bigger.
N1K2-J
Length 30ft 7"
Wingspan 39ft 4"
Max Take off 10,710lbs
Top Speed 369mph
P47D
Length 36ft 1"
Wingspan 40ft 9"
Max Take off 17,500lbs
Top Speed 433mph
The japanese were syill pushing (400 odd over how many months) slow and lightweight fights at the end of the war.
RE: What is this?
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:31 pm
by Dili
Seems to be a Fiat RS-14