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RE: Japanese Tsukushi-class Survey Ship

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:38 pm
by GaryChildress
ORIGINAL: Don Bowen


So, anyone got any artwork.

I gots some...


RE: Japanese Tsukushi-class Survey Ship

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:39 pm
by GaryChildress
Here's the preview.

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Based on this line drawing...

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RE: Japanese Tsukushi-class Survey Ship

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:43 pm
by Don Bowen

Thanks.

Ya got any other ship art I wish I had?

RE: Japanese Tsukushi-class Survey Ship

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:07 am
by oldman45
Thats a loaded question Don. [:)]

RE: Japanese Tsukushi-class Survey Ship

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:11 am
by Don Bowen

Net Tenders?

Australian Kookaburra, British "Bar" series, US Aloe and Bitterbush...

RE: Japanese Tsukushi-class Survey Ship

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:55 am
by GaryChildress
ORIGINAL: Don Bowen


Net Tenders?

Australian Kookaburra, British "Bar" series, US Aloe and Bitterbush...

Got any line drawings? Also ship length OA would help.

RE: Japanese Tsukushi-class Survey Ship

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:12 pm
by Don Bowen

Here's a start. I'll dig for more.

Thank You.



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RE: Japanese Tsukushi-class Survey Ship

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:17 pm
by GaryChildress
I'm off to work in a few. I'll try to get some done tonight if I can swing it. I'm also a little behind on some online classes I'm taking... [:(]

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen


Here's a start. I'll dig for more.

Thank You.



RE: Japanese Tsukushi-class Survey Ship

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:21 pm
by Don Bowen

I remeber work. Got in the way of a lot of fun, as I recall.

Anyway, I appreciate it. Here's the Bar class. I'll see if I can find a better picture.



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RE: Japanese Tsukushi-class Survey Ship

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:25 pm
by Don Bowen

And Kookaburra...



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Bar Class Boom Defence Ships

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:26 pm
by Don Bowen

Here we go, whole bunch of pictures of Bar class...

http://images.mitrasites.com/bar-class- ... essel.html

RE: Bar Class Boom Defence Ships

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:48 pm
by Shark7
OK, so my understanding is that a net-layer is what you use to lay the anti-sub netting at the mouth of a harbour. That part I get. But how would one go about representing it in game? Would you make it a YP and give it a few DCs to represent its 'net' or something else?

I can see why these were left out, the game has no way to know how to handle them.

RE: Bar Class Boom Defence Ships

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:38 pm
by oldman45
We are talking about Don here..... if it floated and was in the pacific it should be in the game. [;)]

RE: Bar Class Boom Defence Ships

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:09 pm
by Shark7
ORIGINAL: oldman45

We are talking about Don here..... if it floated and was in the pacific it should be in the game. [;)]

Yes, and?

I agree with him. [:D]

RE: Bar Class Boom Defence Ships

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:34 pm
by JWE
ORIGINAL: Don Bowen
Here we go, whole bunch of pictures of Bar class...
Howdy there, young fellow.

There's a Kangaroo net tender at Class 2771 and bitmap 346. I snuck it in (along with some other AEaster eggs) when Joe let me "update" the ship art, way back when for the full update #2 [:D][:D].

All that needs to be done is shorten her up a few pixels and stretch the deckhouse aft a bit. The stock code can't play AN, so I made the Class as ACM, but vessel will play with Zygotes [;)]

Here she be ... you want me to make her look more Bar'ish? Can do in a heartbeat.

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RE: Bar Class Boom Defence Ships

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:50 pm
by Don Bowen
ORIGINAL: JWE
ORIGINAL: Don Bowen
Here we go, whole bunch of pictures of Bar class...
Howdy there, young fellow.

There's a Kangaroo net tender at Class 2771 and bitmap 346. I snuck it in (along with some other AEaster eggs) when Joe let me "update" the ship art, way back when for the full update #2 [:D][:D].

All that needs to be done is shorten her up a few pixels and stretch the deckhouse aft a bit. The stock code can't play AN, so I made the Class as ACM, but vessel will play with Zygotes [;)]

Here she be ... you want me to make her look more Bar'ish? Can do in a heartbeat.

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As I understand, the Kangaroo (three units) were oil-fired updates of the basic Bar class (bunch-o units), which were coal fired. What pictures I can find of the Bars differ considerably - maybe due to arrangements for the different fuel??

Don's Zygotes already has the Kangaroos.

RE: Bar Class Boom Defence Ships

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:12 am
by GaryChildress
What would you classify a net layer as for game purposes? There doesn't seem to be a category to put them in. How would they function in game? [&:]

RE: Bar Class Boom Defence Ships

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:08 am
by Don Bowen
ORIGINAL: Gary Childress

What would you classify a net layer as for game purposes? There doesn't seem to be a category to put them in. How would they function in game? [&:]

They are ACM in babes. Help maintain harbor defences, so it is close.

RE: Bar Class Boom Defence Ships

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:39 pm
by dwg
ORIGINAL: Gary Childress

What would you classify a net layer as for game purposes? There doesn't seem to be a category to put them in. How would they function in game? [&:]

Just wondering if you couldn't simulate the net as ultra-low damage mines, with the net layers considered as mine-planters. I'll admit I haven't looked deeply enough into the mine-warfare system to know how well it would work, and whether a mine hit would trigger reaction from the defensive ships in harbour, but the only issue that pops immediately to mind would be making sure the AI (or players trying to game the system) couldn't lay them in open water.

RE: Japanese Tsukushi-class Survey Ship

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:44 pm
by dwg
ORIGINAL: Dili
And there is also the fuel consumption while in harbor reducing the range maybe 5% ...

I was reading something recently, probably in 'Nelson to Vanguard', noting that this was an issue for the US, with lots of ship's services requiring power whether you were at sea or not, but not for the RN, which had more basic facilities and basically shut down while in harbour. I'd suspect the Japanese were closer to the British model.