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RE: Hairy Asian Experiences - GreyJoy (J) vs. Mister X (A)
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:39 pm
by PaxMondo
HI points aren't that big of a deal for the first 3 months. Spend them as you need, you will run out of supply before HI. BUT, after 1 April 42, you want to be sure that you are starting to stockpile and by June 42 you should be stockpiling at least 2000/day. Many players are stockpiling +5000/day. You should have a goal, some number of HI you want stockpiled by 6/44. Call it 4M, 5M, 6M whatever. Set a goal and be sure that from 42/04/01 you are marching towards that goal. Once you lose the DEI and the B29's start to pound you, that HI store is all you have to defend Japan until game end. 6M represents 700 days at ~8500 HI/day expenditure, which is a decent economy for IJ in '45.
VEH - you will need at least 160. Then it will depend upon your losses and your replacement rates. Mot Squads, Engr Veh, Mot Support, and Armor consume VEH real quick. Some players are fine at 160. I've always been VERY unlucky with my rolls and lose a lot of Mot Squads/Support that I have to replace. I end up with VEH around 250 or so. Start with 160 and then simply monitor your VEH pool ... you'll know what to do. [;)]
RE: Hairy Asian Experiences - GreyJoy (J) vs. Mister X (A)
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:48 pm
by PaxMondo
ORIGINAL: GreyJoy
I understand Seille, but so where should i be more conservative? Less Kates and Vals maybe?
GJ, just go slow and watch your supply. AFter PH, you'll know how many KAtes/Vals you need to replace early on. Unless your opponent is a 'nut', you're not likely to see any carrier action for a couple of months, right? Meaning, once you make good your losses, fill out a few groups, you're not too bad. Eventually, yes, you might want 45 or 60 Kates/month. But do you need them in Dec? Jan? or Feb?
The decision isn't about what you final run rate is, but rather what is your priority. What will you ramp in Dec and IF you get tight on supply, which factories will you hold up on and which ones will continue to expand. Have that figured out in advance. Then watch your supply. If it gets too low (I don't let my supply in the HI drop below 700K*), then stop some expansion until your supply is where you want/need it. It isn't hard, it just requires that you monitor very carefully.
*This may seem high, but you have to have at least 10K in each base that wants to expand, then you need some float as the supply model isn't perfect (don't want to starve a critical base), and then you have to have a reserve. For me, that tallies up to 700K. Some are more conservative, some much less. I think Mike uses 400K in Tokyo as his barameter.
RE: Hairy Asian Experiences - GreyJoy (J) vs. Mister X (A)
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:54 pm
by Encircled
As the original greyjoy aar was one of the ones that made me buy this game, I'll be following this with interest.
I expect nothing less than an invasion of CONUS if/when the Allies have everything south of Okinawa.
RE: Hairy Asian Experiences - GreyJoy (J) vs. Mister X (A)
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:02 pm
by seille
Yes, increase step by step. No need to set the plane production target to 100% right now.
Litlle steps. Start with 80 Zeros, then 100, then 120 when you feel you´ll need them. You can later turn off the aircraft factories when your pool
reached decent numbers.
You asked for Vals and Kates. I´m producing 48 Kates and 40 Vals and i have less than 20 in my pools yet for both.
Let me tell you a story that happened in one of my learning matches against NY59Giants. Due to terrible shore bombardments and some heavy 4E attacks i lost
about 100 Zeros in a few days of fighting in New Caledonia. That´s why i think you should not put too hard limits at your plane production.
For me it is better to have bigger facs which you can turn on and off as you need. The key is to increase slowly and keep an eye at supply levels.
RE: Hairy Asian Experiences - GreyJoy (J) vs. Mister X (A)
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:00 pm
by Grfin Zeppelin
Oscars (1c) are also important. You want to replace your frontline Nates asap with Oscar 1cs. 90 is a good number to aim for but shut them of if they start to stockpile in your pool. they will be replaced with the Toho in a few months but until them you need them.
But as said before. Watch your supply. Dont worry if overall supply is going down for a few days tho.
RE: Hairy Asian Experiences - GreyJoy (J) vs. Mister X (A)
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:36 pm
by Captain Cruft
Personally, I would only increase fighter production and just leave everything else at default except Vehicles which must be increased. The key at the start, as everyone has said, is not to change everything all at once. Do it incrementally.
RE: Hairy Asian Experiences - GreyJoy (J) vs. Mister X (A)
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:02 pm
by Cribtop
BANZAI and good luck, GJ.
Now the great question of our time:
WHO... IS... MISTER X?
RE: Hairy Asian Experiences - GreyJoy (J) vs. Mister X (A)
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:25 pm
by GreyJoy
Ok guys, i got the message!
I have re-done the whole air production thing in a more conservative way....
Now i have to dry my tears for the EuroCup final.... will get back to you tomorrow.... night guys
And thanks a lot!!!
GJ
RE: Hairy Asian Experiences - GreyJoy (J) vs. Mister X (A)
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:51 pm
by princep01
Cheerio, Greyjoy of the Iron Isles. We will cock an eye and watch this effort with interest from the comfort of Dreadfort Castle. Japan expects and all.
In order to master Japanese production, you must, of course, swear off all women and alcoholic beverages for one week. A great sacrific, no doubt, but entirely necessary. I, on the other hand, do not as I shall only observe and occasionally comment on your latest disasters.
But, really, enjoy the game and good luck!
RE: Hairy Asian Experiences - GreyJoy (J) vs. Mister X (A)
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:02 pm
by Cribtop
Don't feel bad about Italy, GJ. They had a great tournament, played above themselves at times, ignored the controversy, and did good things. You'll always have Balottelli's goals against Germany.
La Roja is just about unbeatable. I'll say this, they played more aggressively than the usual boring midfield keep away stuff.
RE: Hairy Asian Experiences - GreyJoy (J) vs. Mister X (A)
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:28 pm
by PaxMondo
ORIGINAL: princep01
In order to master Japanese production, you must, of course, swear off all women and alcoholic beverages for one week.
No wonder I have never mastered the economy. I keep fathering children, which I really shouldn't do at my age, and drink wine and scotch whenever possible. [;)]
I truly am hopeless. [:D][:D]
RE: Hairy Asian Experiences - GreyJoy (J) vs. Mister X (A)
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:54 pm
by Canoerebel
Holy cow! I missed the chance to be the first to post in this AAR to wish GreyJoy a sincere "Good luck!" Best wishes to you for an epic match GJ. It's great to have you back in the community!
RE: Hairy Asian Experiences - GreyJoy (J) vs. Mister X (A)
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:57 pm
by crsutton
ORIGINAL: GreyJoy
ORIGINAL: Dan Nichols
But keep in mind that most Japanese women have very little hair. [8D]
You know nothing Dan Nichols (just kidding mate!)
AFAIK...well, as far as i know from internet porn, oriental women tend to be less inclined than western ones to go for the dreaded "fully-bald-mode" [:D]
Wait! You mean to tell me that it is possible to go in the Internet and view porn???. Crap, nobody ever tells me anything...[;)]
RE: Hairy Asian Experiences - GreyJoy (J) vs. Mister X (A)
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:45 pm
by Mike Solli
ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
With the advent of PP's required for plane changes, you should seriously consider keeping some 1E bombers in production. Ann or Mary are best. I produce both, Mike is looking to only produce the Mary.
Take a hard look at your starting engine pools. 31, hikari, and 5 you should have enough in pool not to have to build more.
You are shifting a LOT of factories here. Not disagreeing, but you will need to watch your HI supply levels like a hawk through Jan. It will be a tightrope to walk to keep your assaults in supply along with all of the factory builds you are looking to do not to mention the oil you will want to repair ....
I'm going to produce the Mary only because there are 85 engines in the pool for the Mary that can't be used by anything else. The Ann is better but the Mary will do for ASW.
RE: Hairy Asian Experiences - GreyJoy (J) vs. Mister X (A)
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:30 am
by CaptBeefheart
Good luck, Greyjoy. I look forward to an epic struggle of unmitigated proportions!
Cheers,
CC
RE: Hairy Asian Experiences - GreyJoy (J) vs. Mister X (A)
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:56 am
by GreyJoy
Hi all, and thanks again for the warm welcome

I have decided to follow your advices and am now going for a slow paced economic program.
My a/c production goals will remain the same, but will go a lot slower with the expansion. Tonight i'll post some details with numbers etc.
For now what i've done is:
Halt 240 Factories of Armaments
Added 130 Vehicles Factories.
Turned off 250 merchant shipyards
converted in large ports several Toho, Ehime and Akasi class xAKs to add more space for troops.
Converted 10 xAKs into AKEs
Converted 2 xAKs into ASs
Converted at least 30 To'sy xAKLs into PBs and ACMs
Sent all the merchant navies scattered around Japan, Korea, Manchuria and China into major Ports in Japan where they will regroup and divided per classes (i will then form the different convoys)
Fusan port is ordered to Expand (wanna have a costant flow of resources to this port).
I haven't touched yet the whole a/c R&D, nor the whole engines production...will do it tonight...or maybe this afternoon (i have a boring convention this afternoon and i plan to bring my laptop with me and do some planning[:D])
Princeps, Commander Cody, Pax, Canoe and all the others...it's nice to have you back here guys

RE: Hairy Asian Experiences - GreyJoy (J) vs. Mister X (A)
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:17 am
by Itdepends
Time to update your Avatar GJ- Holding Fast won't get you very far as the Japanese
RE: Hairy Asian Experiences - GreyJoy (J) vs. Mister X (A)
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:14 am
by Grfin Zeppelin
ORIGINAL: Itdepends
Time to update your Avatar GJ- Holding Fast won't get you very far as the Japanese
He is a GreyJoy thats part of their uh philosophy.
RE: Hairy Asian Experiences - GreyJoy (J) vs. Mister X (A)
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:13 pm
by JohnDillworth
I haven't touched yet the whole a/c R&D, nor the whole engines production...will do it tonight...or maybe this afternoon (i have a boring convention this afternoon and i plan to bring my laptop with me and do some planning)
Might I suggest a conversation with your recent opponent as to how he researched aircraft? He seems to have mastered it. Perhaps there were some bugs fixed but if he is not to upset about his recent defeat [:D]he might share his insights into R&D and pilot training. He has no shortage of pilots so I would certainly ask for any training tips
RE: Hairy Asian Experiences - GreyJoy (J) vs. Mister X (A)
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:28 pm
by jeffk3510
You beat me to that suggestion JD... I would like to ask Rader myself.. as I am just now starting a Jap vs AI game..