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RE: Game Praises and Quick Questions
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:38 am
by Buio
ORIGINAL: SecuransRule
Greetings all. Can't believe I didn't discover Distant Worlds sooner. Definitely the best Space 4X game out there by far. Games like the dreadful Endless Space and overrated SINS don't even come close to Distant Worlds.
I haven't put that much time in the title yet, but so far it is pure awesome. Will write more opinions later.
I don't agree with you on the other games. Sins is great, and in my opinion not overrated. Endless Space is ok, and gets better with each add-on they have done (free so far).
Remember that Distant Worlds is an slightly older game with two expansions and a lot of post development time. Look up older reviews on DW just to keep things in perspective. Space Sector went from 5/10 to 9.4/10 (Legends) for example.
RE: Game Praises and Quick Questions
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:01 am
by Gareth_Bryne
SoaSE is, imho, the 3D graphical front-end for DW space combat. So nice of them to write it ahead of time...[:D]
RE: Game Praises and Quick Questions
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:42 pm
by SecuransRule
ORIGINAL: Buio
ORIGINAL: SecuransRule
Greetings all. Can't believe I didn't discover Distant Worlds sooner. Definitely the best Space 4X game out there by far. Games like the dreadful Endless Space and overrated SINS don't even come close to Distant Worlds.
I haven't put that much time in the title yet, but so far it is pure awesome. Will write more opinions later.
I don't agree with you on the other games. Sins is great, and in my opinion not overrated. Endless Space is ok, and gets better with each add-on they have done (free so far).
Remember that Distant Worlds is an slightly older game with two expansions and a lot of post development time. Look up older reviews on DW just to keep things in perspective. Space Sector went from 5/10 to 9.4/10 (Legends) for example.
Yes, I follow Space Sector quite closely, and it was not lost on me how much the game improved in Adam Solo's eyes. BTW, Adam's main gripe now is that he feels that the game is about due for a 'DW2' overhaul.
Sorry, but I spent about 6-8 hours on Endless Space and thought it had a lot of problems. For one thing the tech tree is a jumbled mess. For another, the AI cheats and spams. Also, diplomacy seems totally useless, and combat is a simplistic rock/scissors/paper implementation. Also, unlike the DW galaxy filled with life and surprises, the ES galaxy was dull and lifeless. Finally, and most importantly, the game was just plain boring to me. Click......wait......click......wait (and this is coming from someone who loves the turn-based Civ series).
Don't get me wrong about SINS. I give it a solid B. SINS' great strength; its pretty ship combat, however, is also its weakness. I mean, the developers concentrated on the pretty ships, and everything else in the game like diplomacy and the economy got short shrift. Also, although the ships look beautiful and the combat is a blast to watch, the ships just line up and slug it out in a very grindy fashion. Contrast this with the ships maneuvering and jockeying for position in DW. Again though, I don't think SINS is a bad game, just not a great one. It's one of those games where I'll play one or two sandboxes, then get tired of it and put it away for six months.
I would also add that as with any form of art and entertainment, taste, preferences, and mood have a lot to do with things.
BTW, I downloaded the SINS Advent ship mod for DW. The Advent Matriachy seems like a great fit for the Securans.
RE: Game Praises and Quick Questions
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:08 am
by AtlantisRisen
ORIGINAL: SecuransRule
Greetings all. Can't believe I didn't discover Distant Worlds sooner. Definitely the best Space 4X game out there by far. Games like the dreadful Endless Space and overrated SINS don't even come close to Distant Worlds. I would also add that for the first time in a 4X game, Distant Worlds doesn't get bogged down in late-game tedium and remains fun until the end. I think what kept me from getting it sooner was that I wasn't thrown for a loop when I looked at the screen shots. The irony though is that I've actually since found the game rather visually appealing, especially with Martian's great graphics enhancements mod. Sure, the ships may not be as pretty as SINS, but the battles are shorter and every bit as much fun to watch. Also, in DW the fleets will maneuver and battle it out depending on their level of technology and skill of the admirals, whereas in SINS the ships will line up and slug it out in a rather grindy WW1 fashion until someone cries uncle. Anyway, I wonder if Matrix is aware of the potential gold mine they have with Distant Worlds? I mean, the market for 4X space games is definitely on the rise, and if you doubt this you need look no further than Spacesector.com (Adam Solo at SS gave Legends a glowing review, BTW).
Anyway, I've been playing it for a few weeks and had a couple of quick questions. First of all, I tried playing in the single fleet command only mode. I thought this would be cool as it would seemingly allow you to experience being a fleet commander who doesn't always agree with what the government is doing. [;)] The trouble is, despite turning on all the automation it still seems the game is asking me to make decisions on war, diplomacy, and upgrades that I would have thought should be handled by the government and the high command. Is there something I didn't do properly in the automation settings? It seems to me though that in playing as an admiral commanding a single fleet, you should be aware of all major events but have no direct control over them.
Also, I've searched high and low in the manual and the forum but can't seem to find a guide to the optimal number of factions per map size. Specifically, I like playing on the large (not huge) map; what is the recommended number of total factions for this map?
I'm in a similar boat. I just discovered DW a few weeks ago and can't believe that I had never heard of it before. Although I don't agree with your assessment of ES or Sins, I definitely think DW surpasses them both. I recommend the DW: Legends Extended mod, it's worth installing just for the new race artwork. It's fantastic. See Haree78's signature for the link.
RE: Game Praises and Quick Questions
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:25 am
by Dd_01
Quick silly question - how "Dhayut" is correctly pronounced?[:)]
RE: Game Praises and Quick Questions
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:18 am
by Data
Watch Das's videos...good schooling in many aspects of the game, including this [:)]
RE: Game Praises and Quick Questions
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:38 pm
by ehsumrell1
ORIGINAL: Dd_01
Quick silly question - how "Dhayut" is correctly pronounced?[:)]
"Da - Hi - Yut", would be my educated guess Dd! [:)]
( Although "Da - Hay - Ut", might be the 'Positronic' way to say it!) [:D]
RE: Game Praises and Quick Questions
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:48 pm
by Darkspire
ORIGINAL: ehsumrell1
ORIGINAL: Dd_01
Quick silly question - how "Dhayut" is correctly pronounced?[:)]
"Da - Hi - Yut", would be my educated guess Dd! [:)]
( Although "Da - Hay - Ut", might be the 'Positronic' way to say it!) [:D]
As the second letter is H I would have thought it would be
Da-Yut as in ghost, g-ost?
Darkspire
RE: Game Praises and Quick Questions
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:59 pm
by Bingeling
I have no classes in Arachnid, but for me it is a straight forward da-yut kind of thing.
I am excellent at missing the middle of names and uknown words, and reading them as something else than they are.
Like reading two and a half books of Game of Thrones before noticing that a major character is named Jaime and not Jamie.
RE: Game Praises and Quick Questions
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:41 pm
by feelotraveller
I have no idea of the correctness of it but I pronounce it: Die-oot.
RE: Game Praises and Quick Questions
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:55 pm
by Buio
ORIGINAL: ehsumrell1
"Da - Hi - Yut", would be my educated guess Dd! [:)]
Da - Hi - Hat?
RE: Game Praises and Quick Questions
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:33 pm
by StarLab
Di-Yut is what my inner ear hears when reading Dhayut. Di-Yoot would be my second guess. [:)]