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RE: Unity of Command Bundle $7.49

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 1:36 am
by Rtwfreak
ORIGINAL: rogo727

I'm just waiting for slitherine now to tell me that if I bought this game at 7.99 that I am putting them out of business and the original company who put this game out. To be followed by their "yes" men who will say I'm an idiot and tell me I don't support the "slitherine" Business model.. This is to followed by Iain and others who will try and justify the 39.99 price tag on these games. Lastly to be followed by other people and say "start your own company" if you don't like it or those who can't just criticize. Lame.

ORIGINAL: bairdlander

Is this another price thread complaint?My 2 cents is I wish some of the older titles(% years +) were cheaper

Start your own company and let's see how long you last selling games for $5. [:D]

RE: Unity of Command Bundle $7.49

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 1:44 am
by Aurelian
ORIGINAL: Rtwfreak

ORIGINAL: rogo727

I'm just waiting for slitherine now to tell me that if I bought this game at 7.99 that I am putting them out of business and the original company who put this game out. To be followed by their "yes" men who will say I'm an idiot and tell me I don't support the "slitherine" Business model.. This is to followed by Iain and others who will try and justify the 39.99 price tag on these games. Lastly to be followed by other people and say "start your own company" if you don't like it or those who can't just criticize. Lame.

ORIGINAL: bairdlander

Is this another price thread complaint?My 2 cents is I wish some of the older titles(% years +) were cheaper

Start your own company and let's see how long you last selling games for $5. [:D]

He'd rather complain from the cheap seats.

RE: Unity of Command Bundle $7.49

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 1:47 am
by grogmaster
ORIGINAL: Rtwfreak

ORIGINAL: rogo727

So what you are saying is that I bought both at 7.99 total but I cannot buy anymore dcls or expansions? That's ludicrous .
ORIGINAL: sulla05

Great game and I have used GG in the past and have had good luck.

But they have been lax or the companies have not sent the patches for some games. I know that for some games once you buy GG you cannot buy anymore addons from another souce at times.

Yes because each distributer uses a slightly different setup.executable and thus one won't work with the other when you get expansions or DLC. So you see that's why you must remain Loyal to one or the other. You can't be a Matrixgames fan when you turn traitor and buy from Gamersgate or Steam

"traitor"?

RE: Unity of Command Bundle $7.49

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 1:48 am
by grogmaster
ORIGINAL: Aurelian

ORIGINAL: Rtwfreak

ORIGINAL: rogo727

I'm just waiting for slitherine now to tell me that if I bought this game at 7.99 that I am putting them out of business and the original company who put this game out. To be followed by their "yes" men who will say I'm an idiot and tell me I don't support the "slitherine" Business model.. This is to followed by Iain and others who will try and justify the 39.99 price tag on these games. Lastly to be followed by other people and say "start your own company" if you don't like it or those who can't just criticize. Lame.




Start your own company and let's see how long you last selling games for $5. [:D]

He'd rather complain from the cheap seats.

How much does Slitherine pay you to roam the forums?

RE: Unity of Command Bundle $7.49

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 1:55 am
by parusski
And I just finished off a delicious Banana Split. MMMMMMMMMM.

RE: Unity of Command Bundle $7.49

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 2:00 am
by Erik Rutins
ORIGINAL: grogmaster
Erik, who are you fooling? You posted:
ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins
Italiamedio,

Do you think that's actually constructive? You may disagree with our pricing, but this is rude. Thread locked.

Regards,

- Erik

tm.asp?m=3304642

Huh, well there goes my memory. I've replied to dozens of posts like that in the past and the policy has always been to move them to the general discussion forum. There have been many similar posts here that have not been locked or deleted.

I apologize for misremembering, I thought I'd done the same in this case.

What is bothering you? you ask... your prices, and the way you treat longtime and dedicated consumers.

To provide some context though, when that post above was made the original pricing thread in the PON forum was in full flow. We were carrying on a good and civil discussion there when the poster above made the post you linked to in the same forum, directing folks to buy the game elsewhere. In context, with the timing I described, yeah it was rude and I still feel that way. I should have moved the thread here and advised the customer of the policy but I did not, my bad, turns out we're human too.

Regards,

- Erik



RE: Unity of Command Bundle $7.49

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 2:01 am
by Erik Rutins
In any case, please direct any general pricing discussion to the pinned thread, please do not start a new thread on the same subject.

RE: Unity of Command Bundle $7.49

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:14 am
by IainMcNeil
Just to clarify - we are not made aware when another site is dropping the price of a game so it's not some conspiracy and we don't have the resources to monitor pricing on other sites. If we had a heads up we could compete but this is all about market share for the selling site, not about helping the developer.

We also no longer do distribution deals. We are turning developers away and only doing exclusive publishing. We simply have so many developers that want to work with us we don't have the resources to do distribution. Previously we used them to fill gaps in the line up when there was a release lull. We have almost 1 exclusive release a week until Christmas. Some weeks we are going to have to release multiple games as there are not enough weeks. Some releases may slip and thin things out but we're getting a new deal signed every couple of weeks so that more than covers slippage at this time.

Never say never but currently we have no plans to release any more distribution games and this issue will go away. The only exception is where we have released the base game and an expansion comes along. E.g. Unity of Command. We'll do the expansion but only when time allows as our exclusive developers will always take priority.

RE: Unity of Command Bundle $7.49

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:48 am
by rodney727
39.99 per post......
ORIGINAL: grogmaster

ORIGINAL: Aurelian

ORIGINAL: Rtwfreak




Start your own company and let's see how long you last selling games for $5. [:D]

He'd rather complain from the cheap seats.

How much does Slitherine pay you to roam the forums?

RE: Unity of Command Bundle $7.49

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:10 am
by shunwick
Frankly, I think we need more threads on this subject. How many have we got now? Three? Four? Not nearly enough.

Parusski has once again nailed it.

Best wishes,
Steve

PS: I miscounted. We now have 6 threads if you include Grogmaster's attempt to resurrect an old thread (which I am sure we should have got on discount). Way to to go people. With a bit more effort I think we can easily get it into double figures.

RE: Unity of Command Bundle $7.49

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 1:32 pm
by Tejszd
Thanks to the original poster on the sale.

I was interested in the game but wasn't sure if it would be a good match plus Matrix support of it; patches and expansion did not seem great. But the bundle for that price patched to the latest version is not much to risk.
ORIGINAL: Iain McNeil

Just to clarify - we are not made aware when another site is dropping the price of a game so it's not some conspiracy and we don't have the resources to monitor pricing on other sites. If we had a heads up we could compete but this is all about market share for the selling site, not about helping the developer.

We also no longer do distribution deals. We are turning developers away and only doing exclusive publishing. We simply have so many developers that want to work with us we don't have the resources to do distribution. Previously we used them to fill gaps in the line up when there was a release lull. We have almost 1 exclusive release a week until Christmas. Some weeks we are going to have to release multiple games as there are not enough weeks. Some releases may slip and thin things out but we're getting a new deal signed every couple of weeks so that more than covers slippage at this time.

Never say never but currently we have no plans to release any more distribution games and this issue will go away. The only exception is where we have released the base game and an expansion comes along. E.g. Unity of Command. We'll do the expansion but only when time allows as our exclusive developers will always take priority.

Thanks for comment. This explains why some of the games do not seem to be getting patches/updates here....

As a customer the price and support for these distribution products seems worse than some of the competition

RE: Unity of Command Bundle $7.49

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 1:48 pm
by budd
ORIGINAL: Iain McNeil


We also no longer do distribution deals. We are turning developers away and only doing exclusive publishing. We simply have so many developers that want to work with us we don't have the resources to do distribution. Previously we used them to fill gaps in the line up when there was a release lull. We have almost 1 exclusive release a week until Christmas. Some weeks we are going to have to release multiple games as there are not enough weeks. Some releases may slip and thin things out but we're getting a new deal signed every couple of weeks so that more than covers slippage at this time.

Never say never but currently we have no plans to release any more distribution games and this issue will go away. The only exception is where we have released the base game and an expansion comes along. E.g. Unity of Command. We'll do the expansion but only when time allows as our exclusive developers will always take priority.

Understandable and probably best. Thanks for addresses it.

RE: Unity of Command Bundle $7.49

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 2:25 pm
by Aurelian
ORIGINAL: grogmaster

ORIGINAL: Aurelian

ORIGINAL: Rtwfreak




Start your own company and let's see how long you last selling games for $5. [:D]

He'd rather complain from the cheap seats.

How much does Slitherine pay you to roam the forums?

One more post I get a free toaster. Now to collect my toaster.

RE: Unity of Command Bundle $7.49

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:46 pm
by Rosseau
ORIGINAL: Iain McNeil

We have almost 1 exclusive release a week until Christmas. Some weeks we are going to have to release multiple games as there are not enough weeks. Some releases may slip and thin things out but we're getting a new deal signed every couple of weeks so that more than covers slippage at this time.

That is awesome news. I really feared the company would just cash in on the handheld and ipad craze and we PC gamers would be out of luck.

RE: Unity of Command Bundle $7.49

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 9:25 pm
by VPaulus
ORIGINAL: rosseau

ORIGINAL: Iain McNeil

We have almost 1 exclusive release a week until Christmas. Some weeks we are going to have to release multiple games as there are not enough weeks. Some releases may slip and thin things out but we're getting a new deal signed every couple of weeks so that more than covers slippage at this time.

That is awesome news. I really feared the company would just cash in on the handheld and ipad craze and we PC gamers would be out of luck.
rousseau, please just take a note in the games which will be released in the near future, and you'll notice that the leading development platform is PC. Of course, some of these titles will also be released in iPad.

RE: Unity of Command Bundle $7.49

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 10:58 pm
by rodney727
I agree. Slitherine knows they have problem. I trust this has opened their eyes. When they try and BS someone who has worked in retail 20 plus years I called them out. And while slitherine has plenty of banner waving drones I'm not one of them. When I just picked up a game for 7.49 that they are charging 39.99 for I had to say something. When they say new games are announced they fail to mention that it may be years away from release. It's almost down right deceitful at times. I have said my peace. If others choose to attack me well then i have to respond. And this "thing" goes on and on and on and on....get it?
ORIGINAL: shunwick

Frankly, I think we need more threads on this subject. How many have we got now? Three? Four? Not nearly enough.

Parusski has once again nailed it.

Best wishes,
Steve

PS: I miscounted. We now have 6 threads if you include Grogmaster's attempt to resurrect an old thread (which I am sure we should have got on discount). Way to to go people. With a bit more effort I think we can easily get it into double figures.

RE: Unity of Command Bundle $7.49

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:04 pm
by rodney727
Sorry, but you said you where going to release panzer corps for the iPad ... Since then you have released 4dcls announced a mega pack sale for this game....announced "allied corps".... But not one word on the iPad version.... Hmmmm.
ORIGINAL: VPaulus

ORIGINAL: rosseau

ORIGINAL: Iain McNeil

We have almost 1 exclusive release a week until Christmas. Some weeks we are going to have to release multiple games as there are not enough weeks. Some releases may slip and thin things out but we're getting a new deal signed every couple of weeks so that more than covers slippage at this time.

That is awesome news. I really feared the company would just cash in on the handheld and ipad craze and we PC gamers would be out of luck.
rousseau, please just take a note in the games which will be released in the near future, and you'll notice that the leading development platform is PC. Of course, some of these titles will also be released in iPad.

RE: Unity of Command Bundle $7.49

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:46 pm
by Challerain
This whole thing is getting silly

RE: Unity of Command Bundle $7.49

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:49 pm
by parusski
ORIGINAL: Challerain

This whole thing is getting silly

It is getting silly ONLY because no one will discuss banana splits.

RE: Unity of Command Bundle $7.49

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:50 pm
by PipFromSlitherine
ORIGINAL: rogo727

Sorry, but you said you where going to release panzer corps for the iPad ... Since then you have released 4dcls announced a mega pack sale for this game....announced "allied corps".... But not one word on the iPad version.... Hmmmm.
ORIGINAL: VPaulus

ORIGINAL: rosseau




That is awesome news. I really feared the company would just cash in on the handheld and ipad craze and we PC gamers would be out of luck.
rousseau, please just take a note in the games which will be released in the near future, and you'll notice that the leading development platform is PC. Of course, some of these titles will also be released in iPad.
We are still working on it - it is proving more complex and ended up slotting in in a different way with other work, and so is later than we initially announced. When we have a more solid ship date we will announce it. We have been open about the delay when answering the multiple queries we see on this much anticipated version.