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RE: July 16, 1945....5:29:45 a.m....
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 2:55 pm
by SLAAKMAN
It's only logical to have an open mind about some sort of Nazi dirty bomb tests but I think most of us thought you were referring to actual nuclear weapon tests like Trinity.
Neilster
Yes but its also possible that they split the U-235 atom with an implosion device.
RE: July 16, 1945....5:29:45 a.m....
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:21 pm
by Neilster
ORIGINAL: SLAAKMAN
It's only logical to have an open mind about some sort of Nazi dirty bomb tests but I think most of us thought you were referring to actual nuclear weapon tests like Trinity.
Neilster
Yes but its also possible that they split the U-235 atom with an implosion device.
You can split the Uranium atom with a slow neutron. I edited my post above. I'll repeat...Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. That does not exist for this implosion radiation weapon claim.
Neilster
RE: July 16, 1945....5:29:45 a.m....
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:30 pm
by SLAAKMAN
Then where did the plutonium, cobalt 60 & cesium 137 come from? Why did people miles away get radiation poisoning? Much evidence gets wiped out during wars. Take for example the Japanese atomic tests at Hungnam. The Soviets confiscated everything there so that investigation was impossible but it doesnt mean the mystery surrounding their achievements are to be ignored.
RE: July 16, 1945....5:29:45 a.m....
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:34 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: SLAAKMAN
This is nonsense.
Would you care to enlighten us further?
warspite1
No, I think JW covered all the bases with that comment [;)]
RE: July 16, 1945....5:29:45 a.m....
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:09 pm
by Neilster
ORIGINAL: SLAAKMAN
Then where did the plutonium, cobalt 60 & cesium 137 come from? Why did people miles away get radiation poisoning? Much evidence gets wiped out during wars. Take for example the Japanese atomic tests at Hungnam. The Soviets confiscated everything there so that investigation was impossible but it doesnt mean the mystery surrounding their achievements are to be ignored.
"The Physikalisch-Technische Bundesanstalt (PTB, Federal Physical and Technical Institute) tested soil samples in the area of the alleged test, and in 2006 it issued its results: keinen Befund (nothing found)."
Guess who I believe...some crank or those guys?
How do we know people got radiation poisoning? Any evidence? Proper studies? No. Some guy's word.
The Japanese appear to have made a bit of heavy water at Konan (Hungnam). Nothing more.
From Wikipedia...(feel free to check the references)
"In 1946 the Atlanta Constitution published a story by reporter David Snell, who had been an investigator with the 24th Criminal Investigation Detachment in Korea after the war, which alleged that the Japanese had successfully tested a nuclear weapon near Konan before being captured by the Soviets. He claimed that he had received his information at Seoul in September 1945 from a Japanese officer to whom he gave the pseudonym of Captain Wakabayashi, who had been in charge of counter-intelligence at Konan.[17][18][19] SCAP officials, who were responsible for strict censorship of all information about information of Japan's wartime interest in nuclear physics,[20] were dismissive of Snell's report.
Under the 1947-48 investigation, comments were sought from Japanese scientists who would or should have known about such a project. Further doubt is cast on Snell's story by the lack of evidence of large numbers of Japanese scientists leaving Japan for Korea and never returning.[18] Snell's claims were repeated by Robert K. Wilcox in his 1985 book Japan's Secret War: Japan's Race Against Time to Build Its Own Atomic Bomb. The book also included what Wilcox stated was new evidence from intelligence material which indicated the Japanese might have had an atomic program at Konan.[21] These specific claims were dismissed in a review of the book by Department of Energy employee Roger M. Anders which was published in the journal Military Affairs,[22] an article written by two historians of science in the journal Isis[23] and another article in the journal Intelligence and National Security.[24]"
Neilster
RE: July 16, 1945....5:29:45 a.m....
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:10 pm
by SLAAKMAN
So am I to undertand Silly Warspite1-Newblette that you are in possession of a prescient crystal ball now? Are you in a trance? Have you the powers of clairvoyance? By what machinations did arrive at such a decisive conclusion? [:'(]
RE: July 16, 1945....5:29:45 a.m....
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:14 pm
by SLAAKMAN
Neilster
Those reports are bogus, political disinformation obstacles utilized to throw anyone who questions the "winners history" false narrative off the trail. Your stubborn assertions only reinforce my dissent![:'(]
RE: July 16, 1945....5:29:45 a.m....
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:16 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: SLAAKMAN
So am I to undertand Silly Warspite1-Newblette that you are in possession of a prescient crystal ball now? Are you in a trance? Have you the powers of clairvoyance? By what machinations did arrive at such a decisive conclusion? [:'(]
warspite1
Don't ask me mate - I'm just an Illuminati pawn remember...I'm still wondering what the truth is re my train journey to work [;)]
RE: July 16, 1945....5:29:45 a.m....
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:18 pm
by Neilster
This whole thing reminded me of something and I found it. Here is the irrefutable proof of a Nazi nuclear test. The Eagle...Mike Nelson...saw it with his own eyes and got radiation poisoning [:D]
From
Battle comic, 1975
Go to page 33...
http://www.bestofbattle.sevenpennynight ... .uk/?p=232
Neilster
RE: July 16, 1945....5:29:45 a.m....
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:41 pm
by SLAAKMAN
You see? I told you I was right! Now observe this O Brave Warriors-
tm.asp?m=3368675
RE: July 16, 1945....5:29:45 a.m....
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 2:44 am
by JWW
ORIGINAL: SLAAKMAN
This is nonsense.
Would you care to enlighten us further?
No.
RE: July 16, 1945....5:29:45 a.m....
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:28 am
by Aurelian
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world ... y/nuke.htm
Unlike the United States' Manhattan Project, the WWII German Kernphysik (Nuclear Physics) program was never able to produce a critical nuclear reactor, despite many attempts by physicists Werner Heisenberg and Kurt Diebner. The German attempt to build a reactor was feeble and disorganized -- and their effort to build an atomic weapon nonexistent
RE: July 16, 1945....5:29:45 a.m....
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:34 pm
by SLAAKMAN
JW-
No.
Then you are Wimpy & Weak. [:'(]
Aurelian
Yeah sure and the Rugen Island or the Thuringia blasts were merely a fireworks show. [8|]
RE: July 16, 1945....5:29:45 a.m....
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:54 pm
by SLAAKMAN
DECLASSIFY & RELEASE THE F*CKING DOCUMENTS YOU ARROGANT, LYING FED PUKES!
Nazi nuclear waste from Hitler's secret A-bomb programme found in mine
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -mine.html
German nuclear experts believe they have found nuclear waste from Hitler’s secret atom bomb programme in a crumbling mine near Hanover.
More than 126,000 barrels of nuclear material lie rotting over 2,000 feet below ground in an old salt mine.
Rumour has it that the remains of nuclear scientists who worked on the Nazi programme are also there, their irradiated bodies burned in secret by S.S. men sworn to secrecy.
A statement by a boss of the Asse II nuclear fuel dump, just discovered in an archive, said how in 1967 'our association sank radioactive wastes from the last war, uranium waste, from the preparation of the German atom bomb.'
This has sent shock waves through historians who thought that the German atomic programme was nowhere near advanced enough in WW2 to have produced nuclear waste in any quantities.
It has also triggered a firestorm of uncertainty among locals, especially given Germany’s paranoia post-Fukushima.
Germany was the first western nation to announce the closure of all its atomic power plants following the disaster at the Japanese facility following the catastrophic earthquake and Tsunami in March.
There are calls to remove all the nuclear material stored within the sealed site but this would cost billions of pounds.
Yet the thought of Nazi atomic bomb material stored underground has made headlines across Germany - and the country’s Greenpeace movement has backed a call for secret documents relating to the dump to be released to the state parliament from sealed archives in Berlin.
It was in January of 1939, nine months before the outbreak of the Second World War, that German chemists Otto Hahn and Fritz Strassmann published the results of an historic experiment about nuclear fission.
The German 'uranium project' began in earnest shortly after Germany’s invasion of Poland in September.
Army physicist Kurt Diebner led a team tasked to investigate the military applications of fission. By the end of the year the physicist Werner Heisenberg had calculated that nuclear fission chain reactions might be possible.
Although the war hampered their work, by the fall of the Third Reich in 1945 Nazi scientists had achieved a significant enrichment in samples of uranium.
Mark Walker, a US expert on the Nazi programme said: 'Because we still don’t know about these projects, which remain cloaked in WW2 secrecy, it isn’t safe to say the Nazis fell short of enriching enough uranium for a bomb.
Some documents remain top secret to this day.
'Claims that a nuclear weapon was tested at Ruegen in October 1944 and again at Ohrdruf in March 1945 leave open a question, did they or didn’t they?'
Ruegen is a Baltic island and Ohrdruf a top-secret bunker complex in Thuringia where local legend has it that an A-bomb was tested by the Nazis in the dying days of the war.
RE: July 16, 1945....5:29:45 a.m....
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 2:01 pm
by Zorch
Slaakman, you are a trip...did you write the screenplay for 'Iron Sky'?
RE: July 16, 1945....5:29:45 a.m....
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 2:09 pm
by Neilster
That article was last updated on 13 July 2011. What happened to this vast hoard of nuclear material?
"Near Hanover" is pretty vague. Where exactly?
What happened to this "firestorm of uncertainty" among the locals? Searching for "Hanover nuclear waste" returns links to that article, stuff about Hanford in the U.S. and a whole bunch of whack-job sites about Nazi atomic bombs and UFOs etc. Nothing else.
Who are these supposed "German nuclear experts"? No details given.
126,000 barrels! That seems like rather a lot to generate in a few years.
Where is this supposed statement "just discovered in an archive"? Which archive?
If "in 1967 'our association sank radioactive wastes from the last war...", are we expected to believe that nobody noticed 126,000 barrels of nuclear waste lying around in Germany, unburied, for 22 years? Especially the occupation authorities who went over German WW2 science with a fine tooth comb?
I haven't noticed historians talking about this, much less "shockwaves" through their ranks.
I can't find any mention by Greenpeace about their supposed support for supposed secret documents to be released.
In short, this entire article lacks any credibility. When are you going to learn to critically analyse stuff SLAAKMAN?
Neilster
RE: July 16, 1945....5:29:45 a.m....
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 2:17 pm
by Aurelian
Truth is boring. Conspiracy theories are sexy.
RE: July 16, 1945....5:29:45 a.m....
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:09 pm
by SLAAKMAN
Zorch- Slaakman, you are a trip...did you write the screenplay for 'Iron Sky'?
I wrote the glorious porno called "Irradiated Giant Glowing BOOBS that crushed Utopia!"

[:'(]
Orwellian,
Truth is boring. Conspiracy theories are sexy.
Orwellians motto- "Heterosexuals are boring. Homosexual Commies are sexy".
Silly Magnificent-Neilster-Newblette,
That article was last updated on 13 July 2011. What happened to this vast hoard of nuclear material?
"Near Hanover" is pretty vague. Where exactly?
I have taken it into my secret custody which is classified and no, you cant look at it unless you pay the price: www.vassalengine.org
What happened to this "firestorm of uncertainty" among the locals? Searching for "Hanover nuclear waste" returns links to that article, stuff about Hanford in the U.S. and a whole bunch of whack-job sites about Nazi atomic bombs and UFOs etc. Nothing else.
Ah yes the beauty of UFO's must never be underestimated. Did you have a complaint? For complaints Im certain that Aurellians toilette is available.
Who are these supposed "German nuclear experts"? No details given.
126,000 barrels! That seems like rather a lot to generate in a few years.
Where is this supposed statement "just discovered in an archive"? Which archive?
Is it safe?....Is it safe?....Is it safe.

[X(]
If "in 1967 'our association sank radioactive wastes from the last war...", are we expected to believe that nobody noticed 126,000 barrels of nuclear waste lying around in Germany, unburied, for 22 years? Especially the occupation authorities who went over German WW2 science with a fine tooth comb?
I haven't noticed historians talking about this, much less "shockwaves" through their ranks.
Im a historian & Im talking about it. Now be silent. My Blue Whale is trying to get some sleep. [:-]
I can't find any mention by Greenpeace about their supposed support for supposed secret documents to be released.
In short, this entire article lacks any credibility. When are you going to learn to critically analyse stuff SLAAKMAN?
Neilster
When you pay the price. Until you pay I can only provide you with Rudimentary Penii.
RUDIMENTARY PENI - Cacophony
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llC3DE6wXAQ
RE: July 16, 1945....5:29:45 a.m....
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 10:12 pm
by JWW
ORIGINAL: SLAAKMAN
JW-
No.
Then you are Wimpy & Weak. [:'(]
Whatever.
RE: July 16, 1945....5:29:45 a.m....
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 10:14 pm
by JWW
Slaakman probably knows what happened to the Amber Room, too.