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Why Drongo, I'm sure I have no idea what you could possibly mean by that!

Re: the B-17, what sort of load are we talking about here? Seems to me that in addition to the mass of the plane itself, you also have to add in the mass of any fuel and ordnance aboard; then to be really thorough you should also figure in the energy released when the fuel burns and the bombs go off, though yeah, technically that's not KE. Anyway. If you had a B-17 that was crashing an enemy ship because it was crippled before reaching its release point, then you may well have considerable fuel remaining, plus a full bomb load - I suspect that's going to be a non-trivial addition.

Didn't the Vanguard blow up in Scapa Flow in 1918 while ammunitioning? Someone wrote a poem about the sailors walking the coastline picking up human reamains and putting them in buckets...

Originally posted by sprior
Didn't the Vanguard blow up in Scapa Flow in 1918 while ammunitioning? Someone wrote a poem about the sailors walking the coastline picking up human reamains and putting them in buckets...

The poem is here near the bottom of the page :-

http://www.ku.edu/~kansite/ww_one/naval/vanguard.htm

The UKans site has loads of interesting info on the naval side of WW1. The only equivalent for WW2 that I know of is Hyperwar, and it's not half as good.

There's a list of ships lost to internal explosion in WW1 on the site at :-

http://www.ku.edu/~kansite/ww_one/naval/thist24.htm

Like it says at the top, it's not entirely accurate. The Austro-Hungarians sabotaged both the Italian battleships on the list. Which is impressive, but I think the Italians would be ahead with their frogmen and tracked PT boats.

Cheers,

Angus