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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:10 am
by Temple
P-47D aircraft with default loadout of 12.7mm MG will not fight in AAW, do not even show having an Air Weapon range, just Surface Weapon range. Just to make sure, I tried P-51D, they show Air Weapon and Surface Weapon circles, even when aimed with just default 12.7mm guns.
UPDATE: To be precise, the P-47D will attempt to dogfight, in other words they do try to chase the enemy aircraft. They just can't shoot them because they don't have a viable air to air weapon.
Corrected first entry to reflect that the P-47D does have the 12.7mm guns, not the 20mm cannon.
And this is probably why, the weapon doesn't show aircraft as a viable target.

RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:21 am
by .Sirius
ORIGINAL: Temple
P-47D aircraft with default loadout of 20mm cannons will not fight in AAW, do not even show having an Air Weapon range, just Surface Weapon range. Just to make sure, I tried P-51D, they show Air Weapon and Surface Weapon circles, even when aimed with just default 12.7mm guns.
Hi thanks will amend
RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:28 am
by Temple
ORIGINAL: .Sirius
Hi thanks will amend
I fixed my original post with the info that the problem lies with the P-47D's weapon, its valid targets do not include aircraft.
RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:53 am
by Barny23
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Canberra B Mk6 uprated engines as B mk20 simeilar to B Mk2 no wing bombs or 3in rockets.
Max loadout 6 1000lbs bombs. Speed 504kts. Service RAF, Ecua.AF
Barny
RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:33 am
by Barny23
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Canberra B(I)Mk6 and B(I)Mk8 and their export Mks were the the only Cannon armed Canberras.
A ventral pack contaning 4 20mm guns was mounted in the rear bomb bay. When this pack was installed
only 3 1000lbs bombs were housed in the front bay.The wings were fitted with pylons for 2 1000 lbs bombs or
2 Microcell pods with 37 2in.rockets. No 3in rockets. Max loadout with guns 5 1000lb bombs - without guns 8.
No BMK8 was build; with 8 bombs it still was a B(I)Mk8
Max Speed 504kts
Barny
RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:15 am
by Barny23
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Hunter F1 and F2 United Kingdom RAF
None of these carried External fuel this was first done on the F4 (2 100Imp gal drop tanks)
Max speed Mk1 - 693 mph at sea level (603 Kts) and 617 mph at 36000 ft (537 Kts) Avon engines
Max Speed Mk2 - 698 mph at sea level (607 Kts) and 620 mph at 36000 ft (539 kts ) Sapphire engines
With a fuel tank of only 334 Imp gal compared to 414 Imp gal in the F4 range was a principal shortcoming.
Yours guess is as good as mine - just around 400 miles
No external stores clean aircraft
Barny
Ref: W Green The World's Fighting Planes
FGA Mk 9 Range on internal fulel is 489miles with same fuel as F6 392 Imp gal
http://www.rafjever.org/hunter6pic013.htm#fuel
RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:43 am
by .Sirius
Hi Barny thanks for the info, with loads of platforms its a tough job trying to get all platforms 100% correct all of the time
RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:23 am
by Barny23
Hi .Sirius
I know.
I have my books -1o meters or more if you piled them .Finding data is hard Work.
Keep your 100 0/0 error free wife from the CWDB.
Loadouts with Chanel no 5[:-][:-].
You are doing fine
Barny
RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:11 am
by Barny23
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HunterF1 F2 F3 F4 F6 FGA9 and all export Mks: Engines-one not two
F1 one Avon 113 7500lb.st
F2 one Sapphire 101 8000lb st
F4 one Avon 113 7500lb.st or Avon 115 or Avon 121
F6 one Avon 203 10050lb st
FGA9 one Avon 207 10050lb st
Fuel burn pr/hr F6 FGA9:
http://www.rafjever.org/hunter6pic111.htm#clncrus
http://www.rafjever.org/hunter6pic107.htm
HunterF1 F2 F3 F4 F6 FGA9 climb performance
F1 F2 F4:Estimated 10000 ft/min
F6 FGA9: Inital Climb 17200 ft/min
Climb data:
http://www.rafjever.org/hunter6pic110.htm
http://www.rafjever.org/hunters.htm
Barny
F4:with limited fuel i don't think it ever caried external weapons only 2 drop tanks
RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:51 am
by e2204588
AAA Bty (90mm M1A1 x 4) and AAA Bty (90mm M117 x 4) can not attack surface target.
RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 2:12 pm
by TonyAAA
Request the original VA-111 Shkval torpedo be added to the CW database.
It entered service in 1977:
militaryperiscope
RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 2:27 pm
by .Sirius
ORIGINAL: fool12342000
AAA Bty (90mm M1A1 x 4) and AAA Bty (90mm M117 x 4) can not attack surface target.
Hi there are dedicated AAA Weapons, I can look to see if they had a surface capability and if so will amend
RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 2:29 pm
by .Sirius
ORIGINAL: Tony_A
Request the original VA-111 Shkval torpedo be added to the CW database.
It entered service in 1977:
militaryperiscope
Hi thanks noted
RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:33 pm
by Barny23
Hi .Sirius
90mm M1A1 used as a tank gun and antitank gun
Barny
RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:51 am
by .Sirius
ORIGINAL: Barny
Hi .Sirius
90mm M1A1 used as a tank gun and antitank gun
Barny
Hi Barny thanks , there will be a BIG update on platforms in the next DB release sometime next week so hold on and keep the requests coming it good to have you guys taking your time over this
RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:23 am
by Stevechase
Would like to see time frame for the db expanded to the 1990's and even beyond for more hypothetical scenarios.
RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:30 am
by .Sirius
ORIGINAL: Stevechase
Would like to see time frame for the db expanded to the 1990's and even beyond for more hypothetical scenarios.
Hi Stevechase, some platforms from the CWDB are in DB3000, however the two Databases are seperate, to expand the CWDB to cover DB3000 would create headaches for Rag and myself, this is why two DB's were created from scratch over a period of nearly 10 years, for one person to build a DB from scratch to cover 1946-2015+ would not have been feasable due to time.
Both Rag and myself have spend thousands of hours on DB work and research over this time.
RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests
Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:08 am
by f4migcap
hey guys, if this hasn't been asked for already the AN/APS-20 radar needs to have 'Surface Search' added to its abilities. This radar was carried by several asw/maritime search aircraft like the P-2 Neptune and CP-107 Argus.
RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests
Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:38 am
by .Sirius
Hi JAK63, noted and will be amended
ORIGINAL: JAK63
hey guys, if this hasn't been asked for already the AN/APS-20 radar needs to have 'Surface Search' added to its abilities. This radar was carried by several asw/maritime search aircraft like the P-2 Neptune and CP-107 Argus.
RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests
Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:28 pm
by Barny23
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Javelin Radar
MK 1-4-5-7-9 :A.I.17
MK 2-6-8 :A.I.22 (US radar AN/APG-43) slightly better performanc than A.I.17
Barny