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RE: Does anyone have the map and counters to cardboard WiF 1.0?

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:17 am
by willbowe
I believe that's the 1.0 map, but the counters are from later. The 1.0 counters are lower resolution, and all the HQs and naval units are all generic.

RE: Does anyone have the map and counters to cardboard WiF 1.0?

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:22 am
by willbowe
I now see that the map has 5th Edition at the top left, but there are no other changes from the first edition map that I can see.

RE: Does anyone have the map and counters to cardboard WiF 1.0?

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:23 am
by yvesp
ORIGINAL: Froonp

I have found this. This must come from some WiF Vassal gamebox.

Image

Yes, your picture stirs off old memories.
The first edition I bought had such a look.

Counters would later change in new editions/add-ons.

The more stunning change was when planes got their actual picture, as in MWIF now.
Later, ground forces and ships would get better counters too.

I hated these out-map boxes used to move from one theater to the other. The combat rules there did not feel right. And taking a box (compared to the actual area they encompassed) far too easy. That was also changed with add-ons with new maps.

I also did not like the scale change that occured in Asia. It meant that a 1 movement point garrison could never move more than one hex in any turn, whatever the weather and impulse length. It always felt bad too.

MWIF is a large improvment over all of this.

Yves

RE: Does anyone have the map and counters to cardboard WiF 1.0?

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:46 pm
by GJK
As I recall, up to V4 of WiF, the map had an off-white for the clear terrain and brown mountains. V5 introduced the green "fields" for the clear terrain (great!) and the "steel mountains" (not so great IMHO) as can be seen here:

http://boardgamegeek.com/image/1381701/ ... size=large

For V4 WiF owners, there was a conversion kit that could be purchased to upgrade your components to V5 (somewhat).

WiF/FE is unique in itself.

RE: Does anyone have the map and counters to cardboard WiF 1.0?

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:56 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: GJK

As I recall, up to V4 of WiF, the map had an off-white for the clear terrain and brown mountains. V5 introduced the green "fields" for the clear terrain (great!) and the "steel mountains" (not so great IMHO) as can be seen here:

http://boardgamegeek.com/image/1381701/ ... size=large

For V4 WiF owners, there was a conversion kit that could be purchased to upgrade your components to V5 (somewhat).

WiF/FE is unique in itself.
warspite1

I played 5th Edition and the maps looked like those above - the hideous steel mountains and orange fists came after that.

RE: Does anyone have the map and counters to cardboard WiF 1.0?

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:14 pm
by GJK
Ah, ok. It must of been for WiF/FE that they added those "features".

RE: Does anyone have the map and counters to cardboard WiF 1.0?

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:16 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: GJK

Ah, ok. It must of been for WiF/FE that they added those "features".
warspite1

"Features" that was very polite if I might say [;)] Rare that ADG got something wrong with WIF, but boy did they get those maps wrong?

RE: Does anyone have the map and counters to cardboard WiF 1.0?

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 4:21 pm
by AxelNL
ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: GJK

Ah, ok. It must of been for WiF/FE that they added those "features".
warspite1

"Features" that was very polite if I might say [;)] Rare that ADG got something wrong with WIF, but boy did they get those maps wrong?

The steel mountains gave me such negative visual stimulance that I stayed with v5 for that reason alone.

RE: Does anyone have the map and counters to cardboard WiF 1.0?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:09 am
by GJK
I have FE and 4th edition. 4th hardly represents WiF any longer but it was much simpler to get in to.