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ORIGINAL: Spidey

Igor, I think the problem is that you're basing everything off of what you personally want. YOU find 20% perfect, but what about everybody else? You don't like any kind of spoilers about the gameplay but what about everybody else? Let's not pretend that what you want is also what everybody wants, okay?

i find those 20% perfect just beacuse most of the games IF spoiled above it tend to drop my interest.

I find those 20% useless because it simply doesn't tell me enough about what I'm paying for. I want to know what kind of gameplay I'm investing in and I want to know if the difficulty is based on button dexterity, cookie cutter approaches, or on mental acuity. And I say this as someone who has played PC games since 98.

and let's stop reading between the lines ok ?it's not smart nor looks like it.
you read what you need to write your post,totaly ignored everything else.
i could speak for everyone,but instead is speak for MYself,mainly because I write this post.
if there is ONE man with one point of view,there WILL BE ALAWYS more with it.
and i WRITE this in previous posts,which you apparently didn't read fully.

ORIGINAL: Plant

You come here, denigrate kids, call yourself "oldfag" (what is this, I don't even), and then superimpose your own opinions in the guise of representing other people.

i called myself oldfag ?prooflink or go troll elsewhere. plus go do your google home work on this matter if you want to have discussion about it.

ORIGINAL: Testmann
suppose nobody is satisfied with that.

yup,i never said i was
all i did said,that they shouldn't overspoil upcoming info.

/del

Right, if it's going to be like that, Igor...

you read what you need to write your post,totaly ignored everything else.

Really? You expect me to comment on every single freaking line of text you've written in order to explain to you that you're being an arrogant twit who passes off his own preference as something everybody wants? Why on Earth would I care to do that? All the other stuff you posted wasn't relevant anyway, was it? So I focused on the relevant bit and skipped all the fluff. Unless you just love redundancy or politely aggressive taunts, you should say thank you.

i could speak for everyone,but instead is speak for MYself,mainly because I write this post.

You are speaking for yourself, mainly because you're just one person. That doesn't mean you didn't try to speak for other people, however.

"old gamers prefer"
"if you play games for long"
"i was talking about gamers with big and long gamming expiriance
"most of the ppls that own DW games"
"there probably more than just me with this point of view"

Pretending that you're not arrogantly making claims on what other people want is hopeless. And now that you're getting called on your fluff, it sure seems like you're trying to backpedal by being dishonest about your conduct. It's understandable behavior, though. It's probably even what I would've done when I was 16-17 years old.

if there is ONE man with one point of view,there WILL BE ALAWYS more with it.

So if there's one man in the world who thinks skunk piss on a peanutbutter sandwich is awesome then surely there's a market for PB and skunk piss sandwiches? Quite amazing reasoning, if you'll pardon me for saying so.

The thing is, there's exactly one user in this topic who shares your opinion and that's you. Everybody else would rather see more information. How exactly does this imply that there's a big group of people who think the same way you do? In my opinion, what you should have done was to simply mention what your own preference is. No boasting, no pretending to be an expert, no excessive attempts to defend your preference against any other preferences, and no talk about some imaginary 20% rule.

i called myself oldfag ?prooflink or go troll elsewhere. plus go do your google home work on this matter if you want to have discussion about it.

No, you didn't. Your "oldfag" comment was part of you saying (or at least trying to say) that you were talking about people with proper gaming experience rather than people who play one game per year and "call it oldfag". You might think this is meaningful English, but in actuality you wrote that these people refer to their one game per year as "oldfag", which mekes no sense whatsoever.

The meaning of those few lines, however, seemed to be that you felt justified in talking about "true gamers", presumably because you consider yourself one of them, and that those who disagree are simply less experienced or less "true". And pardon my French, but that's a complete load of bovine dung.

DevilDog, look what you started! I hate to say it but this is the first flame-war I'm actually getting a chuckle from. Not that it should be encouraged though.

All the talk of 'gaming years' got me thinking. I bought my first computer in 1983 about mid-year, a TRS-80. So that's a shade over 30 gaming years (not including the pac-man era gaming time before that). Lol.

As far as the talk of spoilers etc I think that DW is so open-ended that each time you play it is a completely different gaming experience. I make YouTube Let's Plays and DW is one that people like the best because there is always an interesting random plot that the game throws at you. Based on comments from people who buy the game after watching the videos, they need a lot of massaging so that they get a thorough understanding of what experience the game can deliver - especially because of the high price-point for all the expansions. If the game was a scripted RPG then yes, most of the main plots should remain secret. But as it is a sandbox game I think the more shown the better.

I'm eagerly awaiting the release of the next version of DW.

ORIGINAL: Das123

DevilDog, look what you started! I hate to say it but this is the first flame-war I'm actually getting a chuckle from. Not that it should be encouraged though.

All the talk of 'gaming years' got me thinking. I bought my first computer in 1983 about mid-year, a TRS-80. So that's a shade over 30 gaming years (not including the pac-man era gaming time before that). Lol.

As far as the talk of spoilers etc I think that DW is so open-ended that each time you play it is a completely different gaming experience. I make YouTube Let's Plays and DW is one that people like the best because there is always an interesting random plot that the game throws at you. Based on comments from people who buy the game after watching the videos, they need a lot of massaging so that they get a thorough understanding of what experience the game can deliver - especially because of the high price-point for all the expansions. If the game was a scripted RPG then yes, most of the main plots should remain secret. But as it is a sandbox game I think the more shown the better.

I'm eagerly awaiting the release of the next version of DW.

Some posts should come with a like button [:)]

Darkspire

Ok I'll try not to get too involved in the wonderful mature debate on who has been gaming longer, but I will just say "Attic Attack" [&o]

But moving swiftly on we are now in the 21st century and websites no longer have to consist of a single page, thus is isn't entirely outside the realm of possibility to have a tab/page/button called "Full feature list". Also as a free thinking adult human being in control of his/her/it's actions, anyone can choose to either look at this list or not. Aside from the 5-10 minutes it takes a professional web designer to make this page, the time spent on filling and updating this list as the game gets made is less than the time it takes to pick out juicy info to tease folks with.

By some cosmic influence this happens to keep everyone happy and allows potential customers to make choices based on rational judgment. No rational sane person would buy shoes without at least trying them on for a couple of minutes and that doesn't seem to harm shoe sales that much. 2013 has been wonderful in illustrating the pitfalls of teasers and hiding features etc to name just a few. Simcity, COD, Aliens. A lot of faith has been lost last year through developers & publishers handing out tidbits of info then after purchase we find out the actual features require a very oblique interpretation.

Films & books require trailers and blurbs for the story, anything else is no different that the materials used in clothing and the technical listing of a tv set. All information that rational folks use to determine their purchase choices. I struggle to think of what kind of person finds out their tv set does/doesn't have a auto dim feature after purchase and is happy at the "surprise discovery".

ORIGINAL: Das123
DevilDog, look what you started! I hate to say it but this is the first flame-war I'm actually getting a chuckle from. Not that it should be encouraged though.

Oh c'mon Das, first time LOL, like you don't visit some forums for flare war entertainment ... !

Mass Effect 3 after the ending controversy was my personal favourite.

Any recommendations?

Now this was a computer ...

Ok I'll try not to get too involved in the wonderful mature debate on who has been gaming longer, but I will just say "Attic Attack"

I humbly bow in respect of your seniority. It definitely blows away my proper PC gaming introduction with Sid's Civ and Diablo. [:)]

Do you mean Atic Atak?? I remember my dad playing that when I was really young!

If so, I, too, bow to your PC Gaming seniority.

Edit: looked it up, it's actually "Atic Atac". Same game?

Also, STOP THE HATE!: RELEASE INFO PLEASE!

And add DAS' videos as an official tutorial, while you're at it!

ORIGINAL: Spidey

Right, if it's going to be like that, Igor...

you read what you need to write your post,totaly ignored everything else.

Really? You expect me to comment on every single freaking line of text you've written

okay,stopped reading there.
if you not gonna bother to read wtf are you writing about then we have nothing to talk.
from now on you're just ignored as a wannabe fail troll.
have a nice day talking with yourself. [;)]

In Soviet Russia, "comment" equals "read". Amazing.

ORIGINAL: DevildogFF

Do you mean Atic Atak?? I remember my dad playing that when I was really young!

If so, I, too, bow to your PC Gaming seniority.

Edit: looked it up, it's actually "Atic Atac". Same game?

Yup same game just been awhile to remember how it was spelt. No matter someone will be along shortly no doubt and quote "pong"

ORIGINAL: feygan

ORIGINAL: DevildogFF

Do you mean Atic Atak?? I remember my dad playing that when I was really young!

If so, I, too, bow to your PC Gaming seniority.

Edit: looked it up, it's actually "Atic Atac". Same game?

Yup same game just been awhile to remember how it was spelt. No matter someone will be along shortly no doubt and quote "pong"

I'd like to say that we used to play our computer games from inside of a shoe box, but no one would believe me, as no way would a computer fit in a shoe box in those days ...

Seriously, I'm going to keep posting until we get something.

[:-]

ORIGINAL: feygan

ORIGINAL: DevildogFF

Do you mean Atic Atak?? I remember my dad playing that when I was really young!

If so, I, too, bow to your PC Gaming seniority.

Edit: looked it up, it's actually "Atic Atac". Same game?

Yup same game just been awhile to remember how it was spelt. No matter someone will be along shortly no doubt and quote "pong"

Now that you mention it...

How about Radio Shack TV Scoreboard? I think we had that in the late 1970's. It had Pong and a couple variations, plus a light pistol.

As far as the topic at hand goes, I just bought DW a week or so ago, so I am overwhelmed with new stuff for now.

ORIGINAL: DevildogFF

Seriously, I'm going to keep posting until we get something.

[:-]

Now this thread got a second page to read. It's about time to ignore it ! [:D]

ORIGINAL: Canute

ORIGINAL: DevildogFF

Seriously, I'm going to keep posting until we get something.

[:-]

Now this thread got a second page to read. It's about time to ignore it ! [:D]

NEVER!!!!!!!!

Day four: Still don't have any new information. Beginning to feel sad. Will fight sadness by destroying nearby pirate hideout. Let's hope I bring enough firepower...

ORIGINAL: DevildogFF
Day four: Still don't have any new information. Beginning to feel sad. Will fight sadness by destroying nearby pirate hideout. Let's hope I bring enough firepower...

Don't worry, there are plenty of reinforcements. Matrix and Code Force are just on their Xmas/New Year break ... let's hope they are back tomorrow!

Just wait a moment.

A fourth expansion would make this the most expensive computer game on the market, seeing as fixes, repairs and patches which are necessary to play the game (and changes to the UI which were crucial) came in expansions DLC.

Milk it, but not that much, folks.

I adore this game, but, say, $100 not-sale price with all expansions for a computer game would be pushing it.

[:-]