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ORIGINAL: Bletchley_Geek

ORIGINAL: Joe D.

ORIGINAL: Lieste

This is disbandment, rather than surrender. The personnel are being incorporated into other formations. I agree that it seems overegged at the moment, but it is important to distinguish between lost units/Personnel (surrenders) and lost units due to Personnel re-assignment (disbandment).

I just played the first historical scenario as the Allies from BftB under the .270 version and saw several messages claiming that Axis units had indeed "surrendered" from behind their own lines!
I suspect these units had disbanded, but the message did say "surrendered".
I wonder if this is generic, because the AAR showed many Axis disbandment's.

I need to check that out, Joe.

"I saw what I saw when I saw it!" - Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein (1948)

Joe,
 
We need a save.

ORIGINAL: Arjuna

Joe,

We need a save.

I guess that was what was meant by "check that out," but that game is gone.

ORIGINAL: Joe D.
I guess that was what was meant by "check that out," but that game is gone.

It's okay, Dave, I found the problem. Will report on the dev forums in a while.

Think this is what Joe was seeing.
It may just be bad wording.
In the unit message log it says surrendering, but when the last man eventually goes it says Disbanded.
There are no enemies for several Km's
I'm very glad this has been brought in though as that base would have been useless, and prevented the Regiment from drawing straight from the Division one instead.

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Ill sort out the saves.
Do you need one just after the rout as well, or will the ones at the time of the image's do?
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Exactly, Daz [:)] Fixing that, I've also come across other stuff, which should be out with 271.

I have put the saves into Miguel's Dropbox Dave.
If you want them as well you will have to let me know, only its a lot easier to put them in the Dropbox than it is to send them via email, I have found.

ORIGINAL: Bletchley_Geek

Exactly, Daz [:)] Fixing that, I've also come across other stuff, which should be out with 271.

Nice one mate [:)]

FWIW, if a unit needs supply and cannot draw from a Regt base it will under some circumstances draw direct from division (etc), even when Regt is still extant. I can't quantify the circumstances, just report that I have observed it. I am unsure if the state could revert if the Regt base recovers (PersQ can be boosted by disbandment (in theory at least, though it might be that priority strips troops away from a defunct base, rather than rebuilding it) - also morale states and fatigue can improve over time, and empty supply stocks can refill if there is sufficient draw on the base (they will obviously also refill if there is not, but only to low levels which may not encourage a possible reattachment).

I'd guess that at least 24 hours would be needed to rejig supply after the initial assignment away, but I haven't been able to observe the replay of this behaviour in detail once spotted yet ~ and it may not be set up to permit assignments 'down' in this way once they are shifted 'up'.

ORIGINAL: dazkaz15

I have put the saves into Miguel's Dropbox Dave.
If you want them as well you will have to let me know, only its a lot easier to put them in the Dropbox than it is to send them via email, I have found.

These on-the-cloud services are quite amazing. Sending big stuff on the e-mail strikes me these days as 'impolite' [:D]

ORIGINAL: dazkaz15

Think this is what Joe was seeing.
It may just be bad wording.
In the unit message log it says surrendering, but when the last man eventually goes it says Disbanded ...

There is another minor issue; when I ran "Assault on the Saur" last night, I saw two separate messages that said one of my units had surrendered, and then immediately after another message that it was destroyed, which is just redundant wording.

ORIGINAL: Joe D.

ORIGINAL: dazkaz15

Think this is what Joe was seeing.
It may just be bad wording.
In the unit message log it says surrendering, but when the last man eventually goes it says Disbanded ...

There is another minor issue; when I ran "Assault on the Saur" last night, I saw two separate messages that said one of my units had surrendered, and then immediately after another message that it was destroyed, which is just redundant wording.

Got that one as well Joe - I killed several birds with that stone. [:)]

ORIGINAL: Bletchley_Geek

ORIGINAL: dazkaz15

I have put the saves into Miguel's Dropbox Dave.
If you want them as well you will have to let me know, only its a lot easier to put them in the Dropbox than it is to send them via email, I have found.

These on-the-cloud services are quite amazing. Sending big stuff on the e-mail strikes me these days as 'impolite' [:D]

Is Dave too stuck in his ways to use Dropbox Miguel?

It can happen sometimes with us oldies you know.
Sometimes its very hard to got out of the ways you are used to, until someone forces you to change.
Just as you did with me, requesting that I use the Dropbox.
Once you get over the initial technophobe though, you wonder why it took you so long to change [:'(]

So what do you think it will take to get Dave out of snail-mail, and into Dropbox? [;)]

ORIGINAL: dazkaz15

ORIGINAL: Bletchley_Geek

ORIGINAL: dazkaz15

I have put the saves into Miguel's Dropbox Dave.
If you want them as well you will have to let me know, only its a lot easier to put them in the Dropbox than it is to send them via email, I have found.

These on-the-cloud services are quite amazing. Sending big stuff on the e-mail strikes me these days as 'impolite' [:D]

Is Dave too stuck in his ways to use Dropbox Miguel?

It can happen sometimes with us oldies you know.
Sometimes its very hard to got out of the ways you are used to, until someone forces you to change.
Just as you did with me, requesting that I use the Dropbox.
Once you get over the initial technophobe though, you wonder why it took you so long to change [:'(]

So what do you think it will take to get Dave out of snail-mail, and into Dropbox? [;)]

[:)] We have a FTP server available, but for operational reasons it can't be opened up to the public to make easy to upload saved games. Drop box or Google Drive are perfect for that, as security is not a concern. Now I need to find a truly secure storage service on the cloud, or establish myself with Dave a way for us to exchange sensitive files on top of an existing service. Any advice on that would appreciated, as my specialty lies on other aspects of IT [:'(]

I have no problem in people using dropbox. Just email me the link to the file in your dropbox. I'm fine with that. But it has to be your drop box not mine.