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RE: Travel Time From Balboa To Main Map

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 7:17 pm
by obvert
I made some calculations for my own use. Have them in the AAR but thought I'd throw them up here. Pretty sure most are correct, but there could be somethings I missed here or there.

Mission/cruise is used to calculate. Bull says above that no fatigue to ships or loss of fuel for off map movement. I trust his knowledge, but man, that would change a lot for me, and so I'm having trouble containing myself. [:D] [X(]
CAPE TOWN > EAST COAST = 170 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 14 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 18 days
14-16 knots (7hexes/day) = 25 days
12 knots (6hexes/day) = 29 days

CAPE TOWN > UK = 152 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 12 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 16 days
14 knots (7hexes/day) = 22 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 26 days

CAPE TOWN > KARACHI = 140 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 11 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 14 days
14 knots (7 hexes/day) = 20 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 24 days

CAPETOWN > DIEGO GARCIA = 86 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 7 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 9 days
14 knots (7hexes/day) = 13 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 15 days

CAPETOWN > COLOMBO = 109 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 9 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 11 days
14 knots (7hexes/day) = 16 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 19 days

CAPETOWN > PERTH = 139 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 11 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 14 days
14 knots (7hexes/day) = 20 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 24 days

CAPETOWN > COCOS = 100 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 8 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 10 days
14 knots (7hexes/day) = 15 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 17 days

ADEN > KARACHI = 39 hexes (40 coastal routing)

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 3 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 4 days
14 knots (7 hexes/day) = 6 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 7 days

ABADAN > KARACHI = 28 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 2.5 days (2 days at flank)
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 3 days
14 knots (7 hexes/day) = 4 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 5 days

BALBOA > SD = 78 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 6 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 8 days
14 knots (7 hexes/day) = 12 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 13 days

BALBOA > EAST COAST = 60 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 5 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 6 days
14 knots (7 hexes/day) = 9 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 10 days

BALBOA > CAPE TOWN = 176 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 14 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 18 days
14 knots (7 hexes/day) = 26 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 30 days

RE: Travel Time From Balboa To Main Map

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:38 am
by Chris21wen
I wondered that, got a few here. These are only days to get on the map NOT days to reach destination.

days to on map (speed #)
from Aden 4 days to Darwin (s2)
from Aden 4 days to Perth (s3)
from Abadan 4 days to Perth (s3)
from Abadan 4 days to Karachi (s3)
from Balboa 19 days to SF (s2)
from Balboa 16 days to pH (s2)
from Balboa 8 days to pH (s4)
from Balboa 11 days to Pago Pago (s3)
from Cape town 14 days to Colombo (s3)
from Cape Town 14 days to Broome (s3)
from Cape Town 15 days to Darwin (s3)

obverts is much more comprehensive but that appears to be time to reach destination.

RE: Travel Time From Balboa To Main Map

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:29 am
by HansBolter
ORIGINAL: Alfred

Yes.

It takes time to negotiate all those locks.

Alfred

Not if you do it manually.

If you make a strategic move from Cristobal to an on map destination you will suffer the strategic movement delay in transiting between Cristobal and Balboa.

If, instead, you manually move from Cristobal to Balboa and then set an on map destination from Balboa you will make the transit from Cristobal to Balboa in one day.

Never, never, never set an on map destination directly from Cristobal.



damn....beating a dead horse. I already made this point in this thread......

RE: Travel Time From Balboa To Main Map

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:58 am
by wegman58
I notice a LOT of people have done some digging and then posted it on the forums. I'm wondering if over the years anyone did a detailed table of 'on map' distances. Back in the day when we bought books of maps/atlases there would be a table somewhere Anchorage/Alameda; Anchorage/Victoria and a LOT more. BIG GRID. Did someone do that for WITP and post it on the forums somewhere?

If nothing else - which are the closest east coast ports to Pearl Harbor. And what on the Indian Coast is closest to Cape Town?

RE: Travel Time From Balboa To Main Map

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:10 am
by LeeChard
I remember reading somewhere that in off map movement ship speed is not relevant.

RE: Travel Time From Balboa To Main Map

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:29 am
by Yaab
ORIGINAL: obvert

I made some calculations for my own use. Have them in the AAR but thought I'd throw them up here. Pretty sure most are correct, but there could be somethings I missed here or there.

Mission/cruise is used to calculate. Bull says above that no fatigue to ships or loss of fuel for off map movement. I trust his knowledge, but man, that would change a lot for me, and so I'm having trouble containing myself. [:D] [X(]
CAPE TOWN > EAST COAST = 170 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 14 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 18 days
14-16 knots (7hexes/day) = 25 days
12 knots (6hexes/day) = 29 days

CAPE TOWN > UK = 152 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 12 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 16 days
14 knots (7hexes/day) = 22 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 26 days

CAPE TOWN > KARACHI = 140 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 11 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 14 days
14 knots (7 hexes/day) = 20 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 24 days

CAPETOWN > DIEGO GARCIA = 86 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 7 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 9 days
14 knots (7hexes/day) = 13 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 15 days

CAPETOWN > COLOMBO = 109 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 9 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 11 days
14 knots (7hexes/day) = 16 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 19 days

CAPETOWN > PERTH = 139 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 11 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 14 days
14 knots (7hexes/day) = 20 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 24 days

CAPETOWN > COCOS = 100 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 8 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 10 days
14 knots (7hexes/day) = 15 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 17 days

ADEN > KARACHI = 39 hexes (40 coastal routing)

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 3 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 4 days
14 knots (7 hexes/day) = 6 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 7 days

ABADAN > KARACHI = 28 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 2.5 days (2 days at flank)
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 3 days
14 knots (7 hexes/day) = 4 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 5 days

BALBOA > SD = 78 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 6 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 8 days
14 knots (7 hexes/day) = 12 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 13 days

BALBOA > EAST COAST = 60 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 5 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 6 days
14 knots (7 hexes/day) = 9 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 10 days

BALBOA > CAPE TOWN = 176 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 14 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 18 days
14 knots (7 hexes/day) = 26 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 30 days

Where have you been when they were writing the manual?

Saving it for future reference.

RE: Travel Time From Balboa To Main Map

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:54 am
by blueatoll
ORIGINAL: wegman58
If nothing else - which are the closest east coast ports to Pearl Harbor.
If you are talking 'real life' in WWII, your looking at Miami, Tampa/St.Petersburg, Pensacola, Savannah, Mobile, New Orleans, Orange/Beaumont, Houston, Galveston, Corpus Christi, and Brownsville. I don't remember if the channel for Jacksonville, FL had been dredge out enough for larger vessels by the time of the war.

Quite a few of the East Coast subs you get all come out of New Orleans as they were built as far north as Wisconsin/Minnesota and traveled down the Mississippi river.

RE: Travel Time From Balboa To Main Map

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:52 pm
by wegman58
If nothing else - which are the closest east coast ports to Pearl Harbor. And what on the Indian Coast is closest to Cape Town?

I meant closest West Coast ports to Pearl Harbor. East Coast is one big pile in this game.

RE: Travel Time From Balboa To Main Map

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:55 pm
by blueatoll
ORIGINAL: wegman58

If nothing else - which are the closest east coast ports to Pearl Harbor. And what on the Indian Coast is closest to Cape Town?

I meant closest West Coast ports to Pearl Harbor. East Coast is one big pile in this game.
Gotcha.

You can figure that out by looking at Pearl's coordinates and then SF, LA, SD coordinates and do the math.

RE: Travel Time From Balboa To Main Map

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:18 pm
by obvert
Working on a map with coordinated written in and a distance chart from main on and off map points with days of travel from the above list added in. I'll post hen it's done if anyone is interested, but it might be a week or two.

Here is a sample zoomed way out. It will be 1:1 scale to the AE map.

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