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Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:14 am**

ORIGINAL: Assaultgdw

ORIGINAL: Charly G

ORIGINAL: wodin

SS in Stalingrad??

Not sure this game is really aimed at history buffs or grogs.

I agree with you.
When playing Scenario with SS in Stalingrad, you've just to think it's another big city, Kharkov in 1943 for example.

why then give a scenario description saying Stalingrad in the first place? Seems a bit silly to me....

If you have problem with the title, consider this scenario as a "What If".

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:26 am**

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Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:55 am**

ORIGINAL: aaatoysandmore
...The germans could wear PINK for all I care. [:D]

Pretty sure the original Battle of the Bulge boardgame from Avalon Hill had pink German counters. Don't have my copy of it any longer to confirm that.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:40 am**

Attack of the Pedants.....

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2014 1:58 pm**

ORIGINAL: elmo3

ORIGINAL: aaatoysandmore
...The germans could wear PINK for all I care. [:D]

Pretty sure the original Battle of the Bulge boardgame from Avalon Hill had pink German counters. Don't have my copy of it any longer to confirm that.

In the origional Stalingrad game from Avalon Hill the russians were pink. AH had a thing for pink back then. That's why I said I didn't care if the germans wore pink. [:'(]

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:26 pm**

I need say that is the first time i see someboyd complainig about have more content in a game... if you have extra unit and you can use them in what if scenarios... where is the problem???

And not only what if, you can use HOS to create custom scens to cover 1943, 1944, 1945 and i dont know if game has early vehicles but scens covering 1941 is something bad???

I am interested in the game and follow it with great interest, know that you have tigers if you want use them for me is a great bonus.

PD: somebody can post the list of equipment that has the game???? thanks.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:30 pm**

PD: somebody can post the list of equipment that has the game???? thanks.

Infantry
Tanks
Support Weapons
Zombies
Werewolves
Mwah, ha ha ha

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Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:32 pm**

No zombie ninja nazis??? to poor for me [:D]

Well, this thread made me laught a lot, i dont want see they guy buying "steel panthers" and notice that game has inside the biggest Zoo in history [:'(]

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:42 pm**

ORIGINAL: Hexagon
PD: somebody can post the list of equipment that has the game???? thanks.

Equipment, teams, and vehicles:

German (gray counter):
Flamethrower, Satchel Charge, PzF30, Panzerschreck (RPzB54), MG-34, MG-42
7.92mm MG, 50mm Mortar, 81mm Mortar, 75mm ATG, 50mm ATG, 75mm LelG18, 88mm ATG, 20mm AA
Pz IIIJ, Pz IIIH, Pz IVF1, Pz IVF2, Tiger I, Marder I, StuG IIIG, sIG 33B, Sd222, Opel (truck), SdKfz251, Panther G, JU-87D, StuG IIIC

SS (black counter):
PzF30, Panzerschreck (RPzB54), MG-34, MG-42, Flamethrower, Satchel Charge
Pz IIIJ, Tiger I

Soviet (gold counter):
DP 28, 14.5 PTRS, Satchel Charge, Molotov Cocktail, Flamethrower
Maxim 1910 HMG, M41 82mm Mortar, 45mm ATG, PTP 39 76mm ATG, M27 76mm Howitzer
T-34, KV1-S, M4A1, T-60, T-70, ISU-122, BA-6, IL-2M

Soviet Guard (red counter)
DP 28, Satchel Charge, Flamethrower
M27 76mm Howitzer, PTP 39 76mm ATG

Partisan (orange counter):
DP 28, 14.5 PTRS, Molotov Cocktail, Satchel Charge

Romanian (dark green counter):
ZB 30
R35

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:58 pm**

ORIGINAL: Portner

Attack of the Pedants.....

if you have nothing to say.....

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:01 pm**

ORIGINAL: Hexagon

I need say that is the first time i see someboyd complainig about have more content in a game... if you have extra unit and you can use them in what if scenarios... where is the problem???

And not only what if, you can use HOS to create custom scens to cover 1943, 1944, 1945 and i dont know if game has early vehicles but scens covering 1941 is something bad???

I am interested in the game and follow it with great interest, know that you have tigers if you want use them for me is a great bonus.

PD: somebody can post the list of equipment that has the game???? thanks.

glad it made you happy but nobody is complaining about to much stuff....maybe actualy reading the tread might help [;)]

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:03 pm**

Who wants the exact same history with the exact same result? I would rather have the tools of the time that would of and could have been there to study and play with to see what I can or cannot do.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:11 pm**

ORIGINAL: Dorb

Who wants the exact same history with the exact same result? I would rather have the tools of the time that would of and could have been there to study and play with to see what I can or cannot do.

agreed... that was really not the point....
point is: historical scenarios/historical game so no Tigers or SS...
another place another time no problem... I was not trying to make a big deal of this nor did i care to much..i was just interested why they were in a scenario that was supposed to happen in Stalingrad .
That being said i quit this tread and forum. Thanks for your time and opinions.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:24 pm**

I was just wondering what the rationale was to put Tigers in a Stalingrad game since there weren't any

Well, i understand your complain is in have Tigers in a Stalingrad title... maybe i understand it bad but well, is nothing critical.

Tom Proudfoot thanks a lot for the list but i miss the vampire units [:D]

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:55 pm**

It seems to me that people are just looking for something to complain about. Even though the title is "Heroes of Stalingrad", theres also a scenario around Prokhorovka and escaping the Demyansk pocket in 1943. And nothings saying you cant add your own units, undead or otherwise and use the same maps for Berlin in 1945. Or should that be made impossible so that only content during Stalingrad is available?

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:34 pm**

ORIGINAL: Tom Proudfoot

Equipment, teams, and vehicles:
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Hey,

thanks for the list

Rick

Posted: **Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:06 pm**

Btw, there are two Ls in Really.

Posted: **Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:46 am**

ORIGINAL: Tom Proudfoot

ORIGINAL: Hexagon
PD: somebody can post the list of equipment that has the game???? thanks.

Equipment, teams, and vehicles:

German (gray counter):
Flamethrower, Satchel Charge, PzF30, Panzerschreck (RPzB54), MG-34, MG-42
7.92mm MG, 50mm Mortar, 81mm Mortar, 75mm ATG, 50mm ATG, 75mm LelG18, 88mm ATG, 20mm AA
Pz IIIJ, Pz IIIH, Pz IVF1, Pz IVF2, Tiger I, Marder I, StuG IIIG, sIG 33B, Sd222, Opel (truck), SdKfz251, Panther G, JU-87D, StuG IIIC

SS (black counter):
PzF30, Panzerschreck (RPzB54), MG-34, MG-42, Flamethrower, Satchel Charge
Pz IIIJ, Tiger I

Soviet (gold counter):
DP 28, 14.5 PTRS, Satchel Charge, Molotov Cocktail, Flamethrower
Maxim 1910 HMG, M41 82mm Mortar, 45mm ATG, PTP 39 76mm ATG, M27 76mm Howitzer
T-34, KV1-S, M4A1, T-60, T-70, ISU-122, BA-6, IL-2M

Soviet Guard (red counter)
DP 28, Satchel Charge, Flamethrower
M27 76mm Howitzer, PTP 39 76mm ATG

Partisan (orange counter):
DP 28, 14.5 PTRS, Molotov Cocktail, Satchel Charge

Romanian (dark green counter):
ZB 30
R35

Tom, thanks for the list and for all your and Mark's work on this FUN game!

Posted: **Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:57 am**

You are more than welcome. I hope you all enjoy it.

Posted: **Tue Feb 18, 2014 6:21 am**

ORIGINAL: aaatoysandmore

Did the tiger 1 tank take part in the Battle of Stalingrad?Click arrows to navigate
Yes, 160 Tiger I tanks were in Battle of Stalingrad, all had belong to the 4th

https://www.google.com/search?q=tiger+t ... 47&bih=844

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-poDCJ8bJM

I think what you might be confused with is King Tiger Tanks....I couldn't find anything on those being there.

Sorry to disappoint you, but there were no tigers in Stalingrad. The first batch appeared in the Lennigrad area in late 42, believe with 502nd Heavy Panzer Battalion. Mainstein did have some SS division during the backhand blow in win/spr 43 that had a handful of tigers. Even during Kursk there were only around 100-150 tiger that participated. Those videos (see all the Battlefields and Battlefield IIs) always have stuff out of context. It's just for viewing pleasure, but I wish they had done more research. Just read a few books on Stalingrad or about the tigers and you'll understand what I'm telling you here.

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