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ORIGINAL: pws1225

Okay Mr. Moose, which key is the hyphen and which one is the dash? The one next to the "0" key looks exactly like the one above the "+" key on the numeric keypad. I never have understood why there's a difference between the two.

Most humble regards, Paul (a non-moose-like, mostly humanoid-like person)

I never use the numeric keypad; I had to look closely to see what you mean.

From ancient memory they are different ASCII symbols with different hexadecimal code underneath. To your box they're as different as an 'A' and a '5'.

I think my keyboard is standard, if that still means anything. My hyphen is lower-case key to right of '0'. The upper-case on that key is the underscore. Very useful in computer coding.

There are two kinds of dashes, explained here by Wiki:

"Not to be confused with hyphen or minus sign.

A dash is a punctuation mark that is similar to a hyphen or minus sign but that differs from both of these symbols primarily in length and function. The most common versions of the dash are the en dash (–) and the em dash (—), named for the length of a typeface's lower-case n and upper-case M respectively.

Usage varies both within English and in other languages, but the usual convention in printed English text is:
Either version may be used to denote a break in a sentence or to set off parenthetical statements, although writers are generally cautioned to use a single form consistently within their work. In this function, en dashes are used with spaces and em dashes are used without them:[1]

[Em dash:] A flock of sparrows—some of them juveniles—alighted and sang.


[En dash:] A flock of sparrows – some of them juveniles – alighted and sang.

The en dash (but not the em dash) is also used to indicate spans or differentiation, where it may be considered to replace "and" or "to" (but not "to" in the phrase "from … to …"):[2]

The French and Indian War (1754–1763) was fought in western Pennsylvania and along the present US–Canadian border (Edwards, pp. 81–101).

The em dash (but not the en dash) is also used to set off the sources of quotes:

In matters of grave importance, style, not sincerity, is the vital thing. — Oscar Wilde"

A hyphen looks very much like an en dash. But it isn't. Most word processors have AutoCorrect settings for how dashes will be formatted on the fly.

ORIGINAL: pws1225

Okay Mr. Moose, which key is the hyphen and which one is the dash? The one next to the "0" key looks exactly like the one above the "+" key on the numeric keypad. I never have understood why there's a difference between the two.

Most humble regards, Paul (a non-moose-like, mostly humanoid-like person)

I tried both and they both will work, so they are both hyphens, not dashes.

ORIGINAL: EHansen

ORIGINAL: pws1225

Okay Mr. Moose, which key is the hyphen and which one is the dash? The one next to the "0" key looks exactly like the one above the "+" key on the numeric keypad. I never have understood why there's a difference between the two.

Most humble regards, Paul (a non-moose-like, mostly humanoid-like person)

I tried both and they both will work, so they are both hyphens, not dashes.

Yes, but the point I made up-thread was that whomever typed up the readme.rtf so long ago must have had their word processor configured to make an en dash instead of a hyphen. If you cut & paste from the readme it doesn't work in the switch. If you type it in native from your keyboard with either hyphen key all is well.

To make an en dash on most keyboards requires pressing two keys. In many word processors it requires typing two hyphens with no space, and the WP merges them to an em dash. On an old typewriter there was no way to make a dash except two hyphens with a bit of white space between. But typesetters had "native" dashes in the linotype machine's keyboard. The names--em and en--come from those days where the horizontal width of each had to be accounted for in justification. Or so I've been told by one old linotype operator of 1940s training.

whatever.

ORIGINAL: EHansen

whatever.

See, it's this kind of thoughtless response to a well-reasoned and explained post that makes me peeved.

I got your point. I said I got your point. But your point wasn't the point the OP needs to watch out for.

I've had a bad day on the forum dealing with idiots, boors, hypocrites, and yokels. I'm done for today.

Peace, man.

Just FYI, all the switches for slow speed I'm aware of were added for patch 1. The screen size switches were added patch 2 or 3. Michael may have added some since.

Bill

ORIGINAL: pws1225

Okay Mr. Moose, which key is the hyphen and which one is the dash? The one next to the "0" key looks exactly like the one above the "+" key on the numeric keypad. I never have understood why there's a difference between the two.

Most humble regards, Paul (a non-moose-like, mostly humanoid-like person)

Answering my own question, I checked the hex code of a simple 2 byte file created in notepad, the first byte being the dash-like thingy next to the "0" key and the other being the "minus sign" above the "+" key on the numeric keypad. Both are represented in notepad as hex code 2D so it would seem that either should work in setting up the switches.

[edited to add] If I have time to "research" this, does it mean I don't have a life?

No you are just overly curious [:D]

ORIGINAL: gimp36

Ok I finially got it to work. I downloaded that beta patch and now it works just fine. The only thing wrong now it is not full screen. There is no lag when I play now. If you have windows 8 I would download the patch.

Thanks to everyone who helped me.

Just in case it helps... For me it works fine in fullscreen on W8 with this (except I need to also minimise background windows I have running, or they'll annoyingly flicker in and out of the image while I'm in-game):

"C:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition\War in the Pacific Admiral Edition.exe" -skipVideo -deepColor -dd_sw -px1920 -py1080 -cpu3 -archive -autosave