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RE: combat?

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:49 pm
by Moltke71
Also, how did the Brit strength go from 17 to 18?

RE: combat?

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 3:27 pm
by Toby42
I've been playing the Southern Italy scenario as Germans against the AI, and it seems to be acting OK?

RE: combat?

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 3:36 pm
by Moltke71
Maybe the Sicily campaign is odd.

RE: combat?

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 3:46 pm
by FrankHunter
The numbers in parenthesis are the losses taken by that particular unit.

The "Final Strength" can be higher than the troop strength as its the strength after all modifiers are applied and that can result in a strength greater than 100%.

The "Ground Support 1/1" means the Allies had a single ground support point assigned to that battle and it produced 1 hit on the Axis.


RE: combat?

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 3:55 pm
by Toby42
ORIGINAL: FrankHunter

The numbers in parenthesis are the losses taken by that particular unit.

The "Final Strength" can be higher than the troop strength as its the strength after all modifiers are applied and that can result in a strength greater than 100%.

The "Ground Support 1/1" means the Allies had a single ground support point assigned to that battle and it produced 1 hit on the Axis.


Thank You! What's your take on the above combat results?

RE: combat?

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 3:56 pm
by FrankHunter
Can't say for sure till I reproduce it.

RE: combat?

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:07 pm
by FrankHunter
I found the problem, its a bug and I feel terrible about it. The bug was introduced in code to deal with the issue where 5 British units that couldn't retreat were forced to surrender. The issue is the Italian coastal unit is eliminated and that possibility isn't being checked for. Not sure if this bug would ever be visible in the other scenarios but it certainly appears in Sicily.

RE: combat?

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 9:27 pm
by Toby42
So far I only have run across it in the Sicily scenario?

RE: combat?

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:57 pm
by Toby42
I still don't care for the combat module! Every attack has the result Attack Failed, but many times the winner (defender) retreats? It don't just seem right! This is with the Gustav Line scenario against the Allied AI.

Also in this scenario, I have two German Panzer Brigades stuck around their entry point Out of Supply? According to the supply overlay they are drawing from Rome? It doesn't make sense? And yes I have fuel. The other units in the Southern part of Italy can move?

RE: combat?

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:00 pm
by FrankHunter
Hi Treale, although it says the defender has won the battle the units themselves could still have disruption levels causing their retreat. The only difference being the attacker doesn't get to advance. Its possible for both sides to be incapable of continuing the battle and in those cases the defender is considered to "win". The attacker has to win outright.

Which two German panzer brigades are those?

RE: combat?

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:11 pm
by Toby42
ORIGINAL: FrankHunter

Hi Treale, although it says the defender has won the battle the units themselves could still have disruption levels causing their retreat. The only difference being the attacker doesn't get to advance. Its possible for both sides to be incapable of continuing the battle and in those cases the defender is considered to "win". The attacker has to win outright.

Which two German panzer brigades are those?

27 & 28 Brigades. And why would supply come from Rome and not a supply source closer? I would have to re-read the supply rules for German supply sources? During rain turns the supply overlay shows 0 supply in those Northern hexes and it shows Rome as the supply source?

RE: combat?

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:59 pm
by FrankHunter
I can check out what's up with those two panzer brigades if you want to send me a saved game?

fhunter@telus.net

RE: combat?

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:26 am
by Toby42
ORIGINAL: FrankHunter

I can check out what's up with those two panzer brigades if you want to send me a saved game?

fhunter@telus.net

File sent!

RE: combat?

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:16 pm
by FrankHunter
For some reason none of your northern cities are providing supply. I started a new run of that scenario and Verona and Bologna and Florence are all supply sources. Do you have a save from the first couple of turns?

RE: combat?

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:19 pm
by Toby42
ORIGINAL: FrankHunter

For some reason none of your northern cities are providing supply. I started a new run of that scenario and Verona and Bologna and Florence are all supply sources. Do you have a save from the first couple of turns?

The first turns of the scenario? I have auto saves from turn 29 on!

RE: combat?

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:27 pm
by FrankHunter
If you could send me them, starting with 29 that would be great. I'd like to check if those cities were out of supply at-start or if something occurred.

RE: combat?

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:31 pm
by Toby42
ORIGINAL: FrankHunter

If you could send me them, starting with 29 that would be great. I'd like to check if those cities were out of supply at-start or if something occurred.

Do you want me to put them all in a ZIP file?

RE: combat?

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:11 pm
by Toby42
ORIGINAL: Treale

ORIGINAL: FrankHunter

If you could send me them, starting with 29 that would be great. I'd like to check if those cities were out of supply at-start or if something occurred.

Do you want me to put them all in a ZIP file?

ZIP file sent. Have fun [:)]