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ORIGINAL: Gaspote

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

ORIGINAL: rev rico




I figured, but the Vals dropped to 1000-2000' to drop bombs and didn't suffer badly. It's obviously a new thing with beta and/or RA 6.6

Not in the beta, but in the scenario files. The database updates make concentrated flak (such as at PH on December 7) really brutal. Much closer to real life effectiveness, I guess. Losing only about 8 planes, or some cases none, as can happen in stock is simply absurd.

It should be the case for the 7th surprise. It's what japanese lost. In my opinion, for all scenario, all flak should be remove and add the 8th in any place so the japanese can attack freely with historical result.

I mean in most case the allied just retreat even without lose so the jap have the opportunity to hit hard only the 7th and he should be able to do that.

In real life, the Japanese lost about 10% of the attacking planes at Pearl Harbor (29 aircraft lost in total). So total losses of 25-30 planes is not ahistorical. Depending on how many damaged planes didn't make it back to the carriers, and how many planes were lost in air to air combat, the losses reported in this thread appear to be pretty reasonable.

How are we supposed to reason with some person of Japanese ethnicity who tried to drop a bomb on a car? We Thermians have closely inspected the historical document called "Pearl Harbor" about a Captain Rafe McCawley who we have personally verified as being an authentic hero and we can attest to the fact that there's nothing reasonable involved with any of this. Please stop making it harder to understand things as they really were.

Neo: What are you trying to tell me? That I can dodge bullets, flying the Zero with its 33 maneuver rating at 100 feet?

Morpheus: No, Neo. I'm trying to tell you that when you're ready, you won't have to. The patches are not real. The flak matrix still uses the vanilla code.