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RE: carlkay58 (Allies) vs Pelton (Axis) 43 Campaign
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:58 am
by marion61
I believe he means that the units from 5th Army, in ports in Africa have 42 prep points, not 5th Army itself.
RE: carlkay58 (Allies) vs Pelton (Axis) 43 Campaign
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:59 am
by marion61
If you don't mind, can you post your losses screen in the next turn or so. I'm curious as to your air losses so far.
RE: carlkay58 (Allies) vs Pelton (Axis) 43 Campaign
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:59 am
by Rekm41
Yes but wondering how he got to 42 PP already.
RE: carlkay58 (Allies) vs Pelton (Axis) 43 Campaign
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:49 am
by marion61
I'm guessing he moved them back after he invaded, as you can get almost 10 prep pts a turn with one division under the TF in a size 6 port, which Tunis is. He moved 3 TF's back to Africa where the ports are undamaged. You only need one TF on the beaches so long as it is adjacent to the invasion beach so you could have one TF, once you've invaded, to cover possibly 3 beaches. Or he could have re-targetted them on turn one, but he'd have way more prep points if he had.
RE: carlkay58 (Allies) vs Pelton (Axis) 43 Campaign
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:03 am
by Rekm41
Thanks. Maybe he has broken the divisions down to brigade size (he does mention that) and then you get more prep points.
RE: carlkay58 (Allies) vs Pelton (Axis) 43 Campaign
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:07 pm
by carlkay58
rekm41 - The amphibs are preparing with brigade/regimental sized units in level 4 to 6 ports. This gives them 21 prep points per turn. Great for landing where you don't have any enemy and can keep from being counterattacked and driven off the beaches. If you include special forces units as SUs in the Naval Amphib and possible airdrops inland to prevent enemy movement and combat, you can gain a nice foothold for the second wave of infantry and armored divisions quickly. Note that this is dangerous if the Axis can get the troops together and mount a good counterattack. But then you have only risked a few brigades rather than whole divisions.
RE: carlkay58 (Allies) vs Pelton (Axis) 43 Campaign
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:39 pm
by wadortch
ORIGINAL: carlkay58
Neither 2nd RAF Tactical AF nor the 9th USAAF flies a single sortie. The 8th USAAF flies only three missions to the same target (different days). Danzig no longer has any UBoat factories.
Note Strategic AF results bombing Gaeta. The summary line reads that no enemy a/c were destroyed or damage, but the individual lines show over 40 shot down. Also note the damage taken on the port (totals to 142%) - FOW info is fun!
Hello Carlkay.
This is a great AAR and serves very well to demonstrate the complexity of good play in WITW.
Reading the manual as I have, I cannot find the instruction as to how to produce the display you show here. And while on that topic, is there a way to produce a larger summary which displays what your air-force has achieved on a particular turn in terms of factories hit by type, damage inflicted, etc. I have reviewed the CR Appendix in the manual but am still uncertain whether such a "report" can be prepared using that tool. Such a report would be extremely valuable in evaluating progress of a strategic bombing strategy and adjusting same. The changing color of factory icons on the map helps somewhat in this regard but appears to be imprecise.
Really appreciate the time you are taking to share what you are doing here.
RE: carlkay58 (Allies) vs Pelton (Axis) 43 Campaign
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 12:56 am
by LiquidSky
Hit the Show Air Directive Summary button under INFO SCREENS
If you have already flown a mission, the RAIDS column will have a number, with a plus sign.
If you hit the Plus sign it will expand out to show you the causalties and damage you caused.
Otherwise it will just list the doctrines, with the raid column showing '-'

RE: carlkay58 (Allies) vs Pelton (Axis) 43 Campaign
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 11:51 am
by carlkay58
wadortch - LiquidSky covered your questions. Thanks for the support. I am going to post more turns soon - but the holidays and family functions are limiting my time to do so. I have actually played up to turn 20 so far - just a delay in the coverage for enemy intel purposes!
RE: carlkay58 (Allies) vs Pelton (Axis) 43 Campaign
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:35 pm
by Rekm41
Enjoy the Holiday's look forward to more posts.
RE: carlkay58 (Allies) vs Pelton (Axis) 43 Campaign
Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 1:25 pm
by carlkay58
Turn 5:
The naval paths to my prepared invasions are fairly clear - there are only +1 Axis Naval on any of the paths as the worse naval interdictions. The air usage this turn is to try and set things up for the invasions. There continues to be high Axis naval interdiction between Sardinia and Naples. The Messina area is defended by Italians.

RE: carlkay58 (Allies) vs Pelton (Axis) 43 Campaign
Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 1:28 pm
by carlkay58
Air: Tactical AF creates Recon missions to cover all three landing areas. Interdiction is being flown over Taranto. Superiority will continue over Messina. Strategic AF plots two Naval Patrols to cover the Corsica and Taranto invasion routes as the Sardinia route is already covered. No aircraft movement to free all air flying to be maximum to cover the missions.
The 2nd RAF Tactical AF and 9th USAAF actually flew missions this turn. The RAF Bomber Command did its usual bombing runs with no damage to anything. This has become a disturbing trend. The 8th USAAF did its usual stelar job.
The Med saw the Strategic AF take command of the naval routes to Taranto and Corsica. Unfortunately the landing area of Taranto is occupied so the invasion there will be redirected to near Crotone and be able to land in two turns. I will land in Sardinia and Corsica this turn and hope that the Italians will surrender with the mainland landing.

RE: carlkay58 (Allies) vs Pelton (Axis) 43 Campaign
Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 1:28 pm
by carlkay58
Land: 7th US Army captures Maretimmo and then heads back to the beaches for transferring off of Sicily. 8th BR Army continues to advance on Messina with the help of the Provisional US Corps. 5th US Army launches the invasions of Corsica and Sardinia. The 1st CA Army starts to ship from Britain to the Med.

RE: carlkay58 (Allies) vs Pelton (Axis) 43 Campaign
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 11:41 am
by carlkay58
Turn 6:
The two invasions went well and the sea lanes have been kept in Allied control despite
some attempts by Axis air units to challenge. The Italian mainland invasion will have
enough Prep Points next turn for its attack. Italians continue to protect Messina from
the US and BR troops.

RE: carlkay58 (Allies) vs Pelton (Axis) 43 Campaign
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 11:42 am
by carlkay58
Air: Tactical and Strategic AFs in the Med continue with the same air directives as last
turn. The 2nd RAF Tactical AF and 9th USAAF both halt bombing and recon missions to
assess their effectiveness. The RAF Bomber Command and 8th USAAF continue their strategic
missions.

RE: carlkay58 (Allies) vs Pelton (Axis) 43 Campaign
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 11:42 am
by carlkay58
Land: The 8th BR Army continues to close on Messina forcing the Italian front line back
with the help of the Provisional US Corps. The 7th US Army has returned to the beach
heads in preparation of being withdrawn from Sicily. The 5th US Army conducts the
invasion of Sardinia and Corsica. Sardinia sees the capture of the port of Oristano.
Corsica sees the port of Ajaccio being defended by the Italians as the US troops begin to
maneuver away from the beach head. The 1st CA Army and I US Corps finish shipping from
Britain to the Med. The advance CA troops are sent towards Sardinia as reinforcements
there.

RE: carlkay58 (Allies) vs Pelton (Axis) 43 Campaign
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 6:03 pm
by JeffroK
May I humbly request that you put the date in along with the turn number?
Its hard to keep track of time.
RE: carlkay58 (Allies) vs Pelton (Axis) 43 Campaign
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 9:41 pm
by carlkay58
I will try to do that in the future. Know that my AAR is currently written and screenshots saved through turn 19 so I cannot change too much until then.
RE: carlkay58 (Allies) vs Pelton (Axis) 43 Campaign
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 9:42 pm
by carlkay58
Turn 7:
The Axis continue to defend with Italians in front of Messina in Sicily. Sardinia has an
Italian Airborne division counterattacking towards Oristano. Corsica does not appear to
have had any counter attack activity going on. The Axis have stepped up their naval
interdiction west of Sardinia but the Allies continue to have good shipping lanes to the
beach heads.

RE: carlkay58 (Allies) vs Pelton (Axis) 43 Campaign
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 9:43 pm
by carlkay58
Air: The air directives are not really changed for any of the AFs.
Overall the air missions go well with the usual heavy losses (over 550 a/c).
