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RE: Who says the Italians have to surrender?
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:33 pm
by marion61
I guess that depends on what your doing![:D]
RE: Who says the Italians have to surrender?
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:17 am
by Davekhps
For the record, I am **not** complaining about the AI. I did not nor would I expect that AI to be flexible enough to deal with a forward defense of Sicily.
Now, of course, I'd love it if the AI *was* aggressive enough to deal with such a situation, but I can't blame it for not being able to address my little stunt. I know it's NOWHERE near a human competitor.
That all said... yup, AI on normal, you sure as heck can push plenty of tin to Sicily and achieve a stalemate if you'd like.
RE: Who says the Italians have to surrender?
Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 3:00 am
by prinzeugen
I got the latest patch a few days ago and hoped for at least some AI improvement but if anything its even worse! Played D_Day start. German against AI. AI invaded Normandy but also southern France
--happened on Aug 15 but ok at least AI is invading... Probably not a good idea to have 2 major invasions at the same time --but ok... At least AI invading....
On 2nd turn Allied troops in SF
gone... This happens every time you play German vs AI D_Day start.
I get the impression that most of the people posting here haven't even tried playing German vs AI!
My point is not just that the AI is terrible.... But you cant even play German vs AI unless you just want a pointless, easy victory. I stopped playing after the 1st turn.
My point is: the AI does not work[center][/center]. At least if you play Allied as AI.
RE: Who says the Italians have to surrender?
Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:34 am
by Baelfiin
on second turn what happen to allied troops? they disappear or did you kill them all?
So both invasions happened at same time? or was it Normandy in June and then southern France in august?
I'm sure the devs would like a little more information especially if troops are just disappearing =p
RE: Who says the Italians have to surrender?
Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:07 am
by carlkay58
The Allied AI is MUCH harder to program than the Axis AI. The AI has always had trouble being the attacker, it tends to be a bit more cautious than a normal player would be. The usual rule of thumb is to give the Axis AI a 20% benefit down the line (i.e. Challenging) but the Allied AI should get a larger one (i.e. Hard) so that the AI will be more aggressive.
RE: Who says the Italians have to surrender?
Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:19 pm
by Joel Billings
ORIGINAL: prinzeugen
I got the latest patch a few days ago and hoped for at least some AI improvement but if anything its even worse! Played D_Day start. German against AI. AI invaded Normandy but also southern France
--happened on Aug 15 but ok at least AI is invading... Probably not a good idea to have 2 major invasions at the same time --but ok... At least AI invading....
On 2nd turn Allied troops in SF
gone... This happens every time you play German vs AI D_Day start.
I get the impression that most of the people posting here haven't even tried playing German vs AI!
My point is not just that the AI is terrible.... But you cant even play German vs AI unless you just want a pointless, easy victory. I stopped playing after the 1st turn.
My point is: the AI does not work[center][/center]. At least if you play Allied as AI.
We're very sorry about that D-Day AI bug. This was a bug introduced back in early January that screwed up the AI's first turn in the D-Day scenario (it doesn't make the historical D-Day landing and it tries to land in Southern France on turn 1). We have a version out to testers that fixes this bug. Aside from this new bug, we feel that we improved the Allied AI since release so that it will be sure to invade somewhere in Italy and we've improved the German AI to reduce it's warping out of pockets. If you have some other specific AI issues, it always helps to send us saves (at
2by3@2by3games.com) so we can use the save to see the AI in action.
RE: Who says the Italians have to surrender?
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 3:27 am
by prinzeugen
both invasions happen on the 1st turn. the units in south france appear to just withdraw... I think it has something to with the way the AI calculates attrition....
It decides it cant support landing and leaves