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ORIGINAL: Roger Neilson 3
Have you read the original Flashman series by George MacDonald Fraser?

There aren't enough 'plus' signs on my computer for this.

George MacDonald Fraser - probably (no ... definitely) the finest article of its kind I have ever read.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... tself.html

I merely make a point that the 'Mail' is not regarded as a credible newspaper and has its own agenda that is morally dubious and heavily sensational. Over here is it is often referred to in less than glowing terms and seldom does it s journalism get applauded for accuracy. Indeed one alternative title for it is the Daily Fail.....

Having said that some people will be aware that I hold the Flashman series in high esteem and indeed Fraser's other books on his experiences in Burma, and especially the Border Reivers about that period of our own 'wild west' 'The Steel Bonnets' are superb ( a short drive from where I live).

However a writer is a writer, he is not a political analyst.......


Roger

Fraser next then.

ORIGINAL: Roger Neilson 3
I merely make a point that the 'Mail' is not regarded as a credible newspaper and has its own agenda that is morally dubious and heavily sensational. Over here is it is often referred to in less than glowing terms and seldom does it s journalism get applauded for accuracy. Indeed one alternative title for it is the Daily Fail.....
Roger

Oh, gosh, sorry Roger. Wasn’t trying to push the Mail. Some of us on this side of the pond recognize it is in the same genre as our Enquirer. It was just a convenient link to the excerpt of a (much longer) article by George MacDonald Fraser (and not some Mail weenie), explaining the context of his characterizations of Sir Harry Paget Flashman VC KCB KCIE

The Flashman books have been known to give certain people the vapors when they read them as virgins (as it were). Just wanted to provide a proper context. The Evening Standard once said: “There’s a little Flashman in all of us; but perhaps not enough.” [;)]

Ciao. JWE

Cannot be, even remotely, considered in the same bracket as the National Enquirer.

Didn't they just terminate the best part of the Mail??.....namely the T&A page

Sorry if I came across a bit touchy. I love the books but as we get older we get more tetchy and the paper will have either asked the right questions or quoted selectively to its own agenda That was all I was saying.

T&A???

Roger

Surprised nobody's mentioned the Masters of Rome series by Colleen McCullough in a thread like this. My favourite historical novels. Read every one of them at least twice.

ORIGINAL: Roger Neilson 3
Sorry if I came across a bit touchy. I love the books but as we get older we get more tetchy and the paper will have either asked the right questions or quoted selectively to its own agenda That was all I was saying.
T&A???
Roger

Didn't see touchy. Just saw query. I think you understand. Ciao. JWE

ORIGINAL: pontiouspilot

Didn't they just terminate the best part of the Mail??.....namely the T&A page

warspite1

[&:] That's the Sun

Yes the Mail still has some very questionable views of very young women......

Roger

ORIGINAL: Roger Neilson 3

Yes the Mail still has some very questionable views of very young women......

Roger

warspite1

All papers have questionable views - if you hold different ones, although I must confess I have no idea what the statement above refers to......

But you have your view of the Mail and that's fair enough - and accordingly I never questioned your earlier post.

What I did question was the moronic statement that followed it (not yours), that the Daily Mail, in content, could be held on a par with the National Enquirer.

Speaking of morons, I always thought the British would be able to understand English. I quote “Some of us on this side of the pond recognize it is in the same genre as our Enquirer” (emphasis added for the terminally obtuse). If you parse this slowly and carefully, and maybe get some help from your private school English teacher, you might get the gist of it.

Some of us colonials are able to make ourselves understood very well in English. But thank you for your concern.

Oh dear…..

Sadly for you I DO understand English – and certainly did not get that from a private education – so you can forget that inverted snobbery rubbish.

If you say something, kindly have the balls to stand behind the statement – or not (if you change your mind) – but not some mealy mouthed offering. Here is the proper quote – all of it (and not just the bit you chose to show):

“Oh, gosh, sorry Roger. Wasn’t trying to push the Mail. Some of us on this side of the pond recognize it is in the same genre as our Enquirer”.

Therefore YOU put the Daily Mail in the same genre as the National Enquirer. You were not “pushing” the Mail because you think the content is similar to the National Enquirer. They are not remotely similar – although are both printed on paper so I will give you that.

You may not like the paper – and that is fine – I personally do not like the Daily Mirror, but I would never put it in the same category as something it is not just for the sake of an argument.

Terminally obtuse? Well that beats 12-year old, smelly, acne ridden Euro-Nazi. Your vocab is expanding. Well done.

Benefit of hindsight I should never have started this part of the conversation...

Lets just all go back to the game shall we?

Roger

ORIGINAL: Roger Neilson 3

Benefit of hindsight I should never have started this part of the conversation...

Lets just all go back to the game shall we?

Roger

warspite1

Good call [;)]

You started it with your stupid moron comment. Please shut up and let this thread go where it wants to go.

I love the Flashman series. It's way out there, but reading it gives you a good sense of what the Victorian world was like - with some severe editing, of course - in its postures and characters.

I agree with Symon. You need to know where the the author was coming from to understand the outrageousness. I use Flashman in my classes. He's a paradigm that may, or may not, be appropriate. I have tenure, so I don't give a damn. And besides, I teach classes in the military arts and sciences, so there's not many students that would object, in any case.

Matt Norton

ORIGINAL: US87891

You started it with your stupid moron comment. Please shut up and let this thread go where it wants to go.

I love the Flashman series. It's way out there, but reading it gives you a good sense of what the Victorian world was like - with some severe editing, of course - in its postures and characters.

I agree with Symon. You need to know where the the author was coming from to understand the outrageousness. I use Flashman in my classes. He's a paradigm that may, or may not, be appropriate. I have tenure, so I don't give a damn. And besides, I teach classes in the military arts and sciences, so there's not many students that would object, in any case.

Matt Norton

warspite1

"You started it"

How old are you?

I love this forum and you guys [:D]