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Or a car crash.....

Well as we all know, no one before or since has ever been killed in an automobile accident!

ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Or a car crash.....

Well as we all know, no one before or since has ever been killed in an automobile accident!

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Quite.......

Lol -- after Patton's staff car's tire was blown out by an expert rifle shot, the OSS agent in charge of the assassination patted the sniper on the back and said: "Nice work, Lee Harvey -- you have a bright future ahead of you."

Seriously, getting back to von Runstedt, I wonder in the game if it is necessary to hold Italy below the Po, or even further north. I suppose the VP loss could be heavy, but with the Allies at the Seine or the Rhine, I'd like to have the extra divisions available.

ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Or a car crash.....

Well as we all know, no one before or since has ever been killed in an automobile accident!

...Or prevent their Cygnets being raised with ... undesired ... influence.

[&o] Sorry, thats was too irresistible.

"Seriously, getting back to von Runstedt, I wonder in the game if it is necessary to hold Italy below the Po, or even further north. I suppose the VP loss could be heavy, but with the Allies at the Seine or the Rhine, I'd like to have the extra divisions available."

von Runstedt believed in pulling all the way back to alps. i believe no resistance to allies in italy just frees up more allied forces for elsewhere.

he has good ideas on the italian campaign, yet as "someone" would say he doesn't see the economic aspects. milan, turin.

ORIGINAL: MisterBoats

Lol -- after Patton's staff car's tire was blown out by an expert rifle shot, the OSS agent in charge of the assassination patted the sniper on the back and said:
"Nice work, Lee Harvey -- you have a bright future ahead of you."

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[&o]

Except you didn't recount the full quote:

"Nice work, Lee Harvey -- you have a bright future ahead of you. I particularly liked the area you chose from which to make the shot - a grassy knoll, how clever". [;)]

von Runstedt would have still waited for the "phase 2"- 2nd invasion even with total control of all reserves it seems from his writings.

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Except you didn't recount the full quote:

"Nice work, Lee Harvey -- you have a bright future ahead of you. I particularly liked the area you chose from which to make the shot - a grassy knoll, how clever".

Lee replied, "Thanks, Mr. Haliburton!" Honestly, the most obvious explanations are the least likely to be believed. I'll say no more.

I have always been amused by von Runstedt's ire at having the Ardennes Offensive carry his name during the war. von Stompyfoot is more like it.

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Except you didn't recount the full quote:

"Nice work, Lee Harvey -- you have a bright future ahead of you. I particularly liked the area you chose from which to make the shot - a grassy knoll, how clever".

I have always been amused by von Runstedt's ire at having the Ardennes Offensive carry his name during the war. von Stompyfoot is more like it.

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[&:] I didn't understand this comment about von Rundstedt's name and the Ardnennes Offensive so I looked it up. It seems you were right - it appears the Field Marshal's full name (taken from his birth certificate) was Karl Rudolf Gert Wacht Am Rhein von Rundstedt...... Who knew right?

"...von Runstedt's ire at having the Ardennes Offensive carry his name during the war."

it carried his name all the while being hitlers baby.

von Runstedt was just upset because hitler would not let him at the big table during planning.

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ORIGINAL: MisterBoats

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Except you didn't recount the full quote:

"Nice work, Lee Harvey -- you have a bright future ahead of you. I particularly liked the area you chose from which to make the shot - a grassy knoll, how clever".

I have always been amused by von Runstedt's ire at having the Ardennes Offensive carry his name during the war. von Stompyfoot is more like it.

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[&:] I didn't understand this comment about von Rundstedt's name and the Ardnennes Offensive so I looked it up. It seems you were right - it appears the Field Marshal's full name (taken from his birth certificate) was Karl Rudolf Gert Wacht Am Rhein von Rundstedt...... Who knew right?

Could be worse. Could be Tara Gabriel Galaxy Gramaphone Getty. (A grandson of J Paul Getty.)

If he had had his way, Von Rundstedt indicated that the Allies would first of all have sustained prohibitive losses during landing operations. In addition, they would not have been able, "with relative impunity," to bring up battleships close to the coast to act as floating gun batteries.

If he's curious how tanks would fare against destroyers, cruisers, and battleships he should have asked his counterparts who tried in Italy.

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*Slowly backs away from the crazy person*

as a kid Patton would pack a lunch go in the woods find a dead animal and then eat lunch while looking at the carcass.

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That proves it then - he was definitely assassinated [:D]

They'll be blaming Monty next, an attack rabbit attacked Patton's car!

"They'll be blaming Monty next, an attack rabbit attacked Patton's car!"

Monty had a plan to take out Patton by throwing him off a bridge not too far from town, however his plan was never fully carried out. It was actually a fox, of the desert variety, that was seen near the vehicle.

Did Rommel's death from injuries suffered in his vehicular accident get the same amount of press coverage as Patton's? It would be tacky if it didn't.

"If he's curious how tanks would fare against destroyers, cruisers, and battleships he should have asked his counterparts who tried in Italy."


"If I had been able to move the troops, then my air force would also have been in a position to attack hostile ships.

If he had had his way, Von Rundstedt indicated that the Allies would first of all have sustained prohibitive losses during landing operations. In addition, they would not have been able, "with relative impunity," to bring up battleships close to the coast to act as floating gun batteries.

That is all a question of air force, air force, and again air force," he commented."

were the planes not close enough already? he seems to have needed a closer Luftwaffe, not stronger.

ORIGINAL: KWG

"They'll be blaming Monty next, an attack rabbit attacked Patton's car!"

Monty had a plan to take out Patton by throwing him off a bridge not too far from town, however his plan was never fully carried out. It was actually a fox, of the desert variety, that was seen near the vehicle.

Did Rommel's death from injuries suffered in his vehicular accident get the same amount of press coverage as Patton's? It would be tacky if it didn't.

No one took my bait.

Around the time of The Bulge, at a major conference Monty explained how in the case of a German attack he would "Spring on them like a Rabbit". I think this is in Monty or Pattons diaries.

PS I dont believe Monty or Patton hated each other, my reading is professional respect but they weren't sending each other Birthday cards. Both wanted to get to Berlin first and pushed their own barrows. Post war comment by others has built up a lot of mythology about the disrespect.

" Both wanted to get to Berlin first and pushed their own barrows"

friction over supplies, Patton and Monty each saying they could achieve the most if given larger share of supplies/fuel. Patton's troops were notorious for supplies/fuel raids on other allied commands.