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I got it a few days after it came out - have decided to stop playing and put it back in the case for 6 months and see if they can finish it.

i decided same as you. i was excited when i heard a WW2 version with all the research stuff came out, because i played EU2 quite often. but, the price of the US version is to high over here, so i went to their forum to see, when german version will be out. and after reading some posts there i think it´s much better to wait till february for the german version. perhaps then will patch no.3 be out and improve it to playable level....

I'd love to get addicted to HOI...but I've never yet been able to complete a game due to CTD's. I've been playing steadily throughout the entire holiday, and am about to (regretfully) trashcan it as a waste of time.

After reading the Matrix forums about a Paradox game (a paradox in itself, I would imagine), I decided to investigate this Hearts of Irongame that has been touted "the greatest wargame in the galaxy" or something like that.

Read the Strategy First forums for over two hours, read some dang cool AAR's, read about the pro's and con's, read some reviews on other websites. Synopisis: A really interesting game that I may possibly pick up after about six months more of much needed patching. IF that happens, this baby could be a contendah on my hard drive.

Originally posted by Poindexter
After reading the Matrix forums about a Paradox game (a paradox in itself, I would imagine), I decided to investigate this Hearts of Irongame that has been touted "the greatest wargame in the galaxy" or something like that.

Read the Strategy First forums for over two hours, read some dang cool AAR's, read about the pro's and con's, read some reviews on other websites. Synopisis: A really interesting game that I may possibly pick up after about six months more of much needed patching. IF that happens, this baby could be a contendah on my hard drive.

definitively needs patching, but has potential, imho...

I have nothing more to say other than this

showthread.php?s=&threadid=30726

If this doesn't say enough, nothing will.

Originally posted by Les the Sarge 9-1
I have nothing more to say other than this

showthread.php?s=&threadid=30726

If this doesn't say enough, nothing will.

Well maybe if you had played the game, you might actually have something useful to say?

As it is right now, the best you can do is bring up other peoples points...:rolleyes:

Reiryc

Reiryc, already knows how little I think of anything he says.

Originally posted by Les the Sarge 9-1
Reiryc, already knows how little I think of anything he says.

Maybe if you thought more, it wouldn't be such a problem?

Reiryc

And the silence below this line is all the rebutal he will ever likely achieve.
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GamesDomain:

"Overall, Hearts of Iron is a real disappointment. While Paradox had admirable goals in mind when they set about fashioning this remarkably detailed look at World War II, the company didn't take enough time to consider the playability of the end product. Simply grafting the socio-political scene of the early 20th Century on to the Europa Universalis engine does not make for a good game. Combine that with the fundamental instability of the program and you've got a game that -- regrettably, considering the amount of dedication that was put into it -- should be avoided."

Dan

PC Gamer - 90%
CGW - 3.5 stars

I remember quite well, when Eu2 or Eu1 came out that both games had quite low ratings... I dislike the policy of rushing a game, but I know they`ll fix it.

Originally posted by OG_Gleep
PC Gamer - 90%
CGW - 3.5 stars

Looks like PC Gamer's writer forgot to play the game before he reviewed it. I think I'll forget to subscribe to their rag.

Talk about bad planning. What were they thinking when they started to program this game? HoI has many issues that could have been foreseen with good planning.

Originally posted by Zakhal
HoI has many issues that could have been foreseen with good planning.

A growing "consensus" seems to be that the plan to use the good but inappropriate EU engine was Issue #1. Further, had they made the game turn-based with fully supported PBEM, the AI lapses would be less show-stopping. And the whole damned project would have been less complicated.

http://www.avault.com/reviews/review_temp.asp?game=hoi
http://www.sgo.cc/reviews/hearts_of_iron/index.shtml

Strategy Gaming online

"Solo play: 10 - an aggressive and challenging AI that uses every facet to attack, great event implementation, everything else aside: it’s really simply FUN."

LOL:D

Originally posted by Les the Sarge 9-1
And the silence below this line is all the rebutal he will ever likely achieve.
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But, since I received the 'rebuttal' from above the line....I am a happy camper. :p

Reiryc

After about 100 hours of my life wasted on the puppy I will say this:

The Combat Model sucks.

The decision to use Real Time instead of Turn Based was Dumb.

The use of Tiles instead of Hexs was a Poor Choice.

You cannot port the EU II Engine to 1936 and expect Good Things.

The Tech Tree flow is too complex and Badly Thought Out.

The Game as sold is really a $49.00 Buggy Beta.

For a Game that purports to be a historical simulation of WW II it seems impossible to replicate many of the actual events, equipment and Tech. in the Historic Time Frame.

The Manual is next to Useless.

Yes, Paradox are Good with patches, they are also Slow with patches.

I will re-vist this in about 1 year, although I doubt with all Bugs crushed the basic Game will work as a realistic Grand Stratigic Sim of WW II.

2 1/2 Stars for Now.