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As a side note, I absolutely love the first turn set-up, especially as Japan.

Have masochistic tendencies do we?[:D]

ORIGINAL: rustysi

As a side note, I absolutely love the first turn set-up, especially as Japan.

Have masochistic tendencies do we?[:D]

[:D]

Not quite. I like how there's an almost infinite number of variations on what you can do. It's like chess, with the openings and counters, the Mersing Gambit ect

ORIGINAL: mind_messing

ORIGINAL: rustysi

As a side note, I absolutely love the first turn set-up, especially as Japan.

Have masochistic tendencies do we?[:D]

[:D]

Not quite. I like how there's an almost infinite number of variations on what you can do. It's like chess, with the openings and counters, the Mersing Gambit ect

Ok, yeah I get it. Kobayashi Maru, etc.[:D]

I've had a couple quit on me, but as Mind Messing says, if they are not enjoying it, then its asking rather a lot to expect them to play on?

I take every game as a learning curve, its probably the best way.

And I absolutely hate the first turn set up!

I think I'm getting clubbed worse than that.
 
I've put in too much of my life to give it up, and I know it'll only get better.  The 20% dud rate reduction already makes US torpedoes a miracle weapon.
 
Too many have quit on me and I'm not about to do that to anyone else.

A game is a game, he probably felt beat... That is ok in my book, would never hold it against an opponent....

Sad you lost an opponent into S&M!! They are hard to find. In my experience he hung in about 1 year and 5 CVs longer than most!!

I'm not doing anything. I once promised to only play the Japanese but I'll make an exception for an uphill fight for the Allies. I'm sure you'll get plenty of offers. All of my opponents quit in '42 so I can guess how you feel.

edit: I did get to 5/43 with wyrmm, my best opponent. Hail Bryan!

Have your former opponent send his last turn plus the password to whomever you choose. Also, have you done any updates? Are you using the beta? Which edition? Are you using a mod or stock?

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

All of my opponents quit in '42 so I can guess how you feel.

You are swift![:D]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

All of my opponents quit in '42 so I can guess how you feel.

You are swift![:D]

And merciful [;)]

As a strictly Allied player I have had most IJ Players quit about the same time as Allied fighters START to get good AND numerous. It seems to me that the ideal scenario would be something akin to the Guadalcanal Scenario but not confined to the South Pacific (May 42 - Dec 43 or so). If there are really that many players who want to send their cyberwarriors off to certain death as kamikazes then let them enjoy that particular masochistic situation as an add-on scenario rather than the premise of the whole game.

Well, this is why (as a modder') 1942-mid 1943 is so important to get right/make interesting... most games NEVER go beyond 1943 ... usually one side or the other call it quits.
Even though the forum has the collective wisdom of "Don't worry about losses in 1942 - you'll get plenty more" The reality is - MOST PVP games don't survive 1943... Japanese or Allied.


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ORIGINAL: spence

As a strictly Allied player I have had most IJ Players quit about the same time as Allied fighters START to get good AND numerous. It seems to me that the ideal scenario would be something akin to the Guadalcanal Scenario but not confined to the South Pacific (May 42 - Dec 43 or so). If there are really that many players who want to send their cyberwarriors off to certain death as kamikazes then let them enjoy that particular masochistic situation as an add-on scenario rather than the premise of the whole game.

Well as A JFB I have gone the distance in my PBEM games. Into '45. It may be weird (but then you have to be weird to play this game at all [:D]) but I actually enjoy seeing the rain and death of destruction the Allies can bring. Along with my rapidly diminishing ability to impact anything in a meaningful way. So I think a LOT of JFBs are really missing out by not playing through to the end.

After all if you start a trip and stop half way through, you really do not get the full experience. [:)]

I understand stopping in '43 if you're playing the AI because that progressively becomes unchallenging with the AI doing really stupid stuff. But playing a human (or a gorn) who's happy to keep going? Life intervenes sometimes, like when your mom's basement floods. [:D]

ORIGINAL: Numdydar

Well as A JFB I have gone the distance in my PBEM games. Into '45. It may be weird (but then you have to be weird to play this game at all [:D]) but I actually enjoy seeing the rain and death of destruction the Allies can bring. Along with my rapidly diminishing ability to impact anything in a meaningful way. So I think a LOT of JFBs are really missing out by not playing through to the end.

After all if you start a trip and stop half way through, you really do not get the full experience. [:)]

It is hard watching the endless bombing replays, but I just learned of the beauty of the F10 key during replay. Haven't tried it yet, but will shortly.

I can kind of understand your frustration. Your opponent quit right before the Allies - the US in particular - starts stencilling out vast quantities of new kit. If he had hung in there until late '43 and played smart, it could have been a very different game. On the other hand, it does appear that you were clubbing the guy pretty hard, and he had very little to show for it. Turn after turn, theres only so much of that one can take.

Really [:'(]? If that were true no one would play Japan past '43 [:D]

Instead of quitting, he should have formally surrendered. If he was a stand-up guy, he would have mailed you a bottle of Sake via snail mail.

I get no enjoyment from pummeling an opponent who is not having any fun, and who has no hope of making it a challenging game. However, there are ways to terminate a game that is a forgone conclusion without appearing to be an ass. I've never held it against an opponent to pull the plug when things are totally hopeless, and I wouldn't insist on a game to '45 if one side was simply on a roll and operations were the same difficulty as training maneuvers.

Regards,
Feltan

ORIGINAL: Empire101



So after nearly three years of playing an opponent ( who shall remain nameless ), I received an email today saying that he is throwing the towel in.

WHAT!?[:@]

This has made me very unhappy. We had reached 27 March 1943, and both sides still had everything to play for.

I was playing the Axis, he the Allied.

Now its all down the toilet.
Made me very dispirited and very wary about starting another.

You were lucky, my Allied opponent has just quit on me in April 42... just too hard to find good opponents that go the long run. And then I don't even think that should be 46 or so, I'd be happy if it ends some time in late 44 if the situation is hopeless.