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RE: Is it worth 1.2 Chits in the Ge/It entry pool ?
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:23 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Extraneous
Paul you are of course correct.
There is a misspelling in the Rules_as_Coded.pdf: You spell the word "totaling" not "totalling".
warspite1
Totalling looks good to me - and we invented the language so there [;)]
RE: Is it worth 1.2 Chits in the Ge/It entry pool ?
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:26 pm
by Extraneous
Does it?
ORIGINAL: WiFFE-RAW-7.0.pdf from Australian Design Group
Example: Jay has markers totaling 17 in the Germany/Italy entry pool and markers totaling 8 in the Japan entry pool. Jay’s entry level against Germany or Italy is (17 x 1.5) + (8 x 0.5) = 29.5, rounding to 30. His entry level against Japan is (17 x 0.5) + (8 x 1.5) = 20.5, rounding to 21.
RE: Is it worth 1.2 Chits in the Ge/It entry pool ?
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:42 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Extraneous
Does it?
ORIGINAL: WiFFE-RAW-7.0.pdf from Australian Design Group
Example: Jay has markers totalling 17 in the Germany/Italy entry pool and markers totalling 8 in the Japan entry pool. Jay’s entry level against Germany or Italy is (17 x 1.5) + (8 x 0.5) = 29.5, rounding to 30. His entry level against Japan is (17 x 0.5) + (8 x 1.5) = 20.5, rounding to 21.
warspite1
Does it what? Look right? Yes, yes it does [;)]
RE: Is it worth 1.2 Chits in the Ge/It entry pool ?
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 3:47 pm
by Extraneous
Don't bite your arm off mate.
I wasn't Au fait with having to know the Queens English here in the forums.
Horses for courses.
RE: Is it worth 1.2 Chits in the Ge/It entry pool ?
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:04 pm
by Barbuesque
It's strange and gamey, but not worth the 1.2 chits imo.
RE: Is it worth 1.2 Chits in the Ge/It entry pool ?
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:24 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Extraneous
Don't bite your arm off mate.
I wasn't Au fait with having to know the Queens English here in the forums.
Horses for courses.
warspite1
Bite your arm off?
No it was just a bit of light UK-US language ribbing. Nothing to get excited about at all....
RE: Is it worth 1.2 Chits in the Ge/It entry pool ?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 6:40 pm
by Extraneous
Do USA corps in Venezuela count toward US entry action 21?
ORIGINAL: WifChart.pdf
13.3.3 US ENTRY ACTIONS
21. Allies support attacked minor (Ge/It) Requires 4+ Allied corps or armies (not units of the minor itself). Rolled once per neutral minor country. 70% chance of an US entry pool chit (Ja).
The Axis gets the chance first but what if they don't DoW Venezuela?
Is it worth 1.7 US entry chits for the CW to DoW Venezuela and get all 6 oil?
ORIGINAL: WifChart.pdf
32. Other Ally declares war on (Ge/It): Poland, Spain, Turkey or any American country (Rolled once per major power or neutral minor country.) -17.
RE: Is it worth 1.2 Chits in the Ge/It entry pool ?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 7:55 pm
by Courtenay
ORIGINAL: Extraneous
Do USA corps in Venezuela count toward US entry action 21?
ORIGINAL: WifChart.pdf
13.3.3 US ENTRY ACTIONS
21. Allies support attacked minor (Ge/It) Requires 4+ Allied corps or armies (not units of the minor itself). Rolled once per neutral minor country. 70% chance of an US entry pool chit (Ja).
Remember that Allies support attacked minor must be done the same turn as the Axis declares war on the minor.
Not counting MacArthur, who is too far away, the only US corps on the map at the start of the game is Nimitz. Thus three corps would have to come from the CW and France. At the start of the game, this strikes me as a very dubious move.
The Axis gets the chance first but what if they don't DoW Venezuela?
Is it worth 1.7 US entry chits for the CW to DoW Venezuela and get all 6 oil?
ORIGINAL: WifChart.pdf
32. Other Ally declares war on (Ge/It): Poland, Spain, Turkey or any American country (Rolled once per major power or neutral minor country.) -17.
No.
RE: Is it worth 1.2 Chits in the Ge/It entry pool ?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:44 pm
by Extraneous
Since the US and CW don't co-operate (France and the USSR lack the TRNS) you would have to have Gort HQ (to meet Foreign troop commitments) and 2 CW corps and Nimitz HQ.
Assuming the CW has the Queens and two TRNS that can reach Venezuela.
ORIGINAL: WiFFE-RAW-7.0.pdf
18.1 Who can co-operate
US and Commonwealth units co-operate provided neither is neutral.
RE: Is it worth 1.2 Chits in the Ge/It entry pool ?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:05 pm
by paulderynck
While FTC would apply to entering another major power that does not cooperate with you, it does not apply to major power units entering a minor power aligned with a major power on the same side.
So it is remotely possible with the CW to provide support if Germany or Italy issue the DoW, but if Japan does the DoW, the CW would have to be willing to DOW Japan in 1939, which makes it extremely, remotely possible.
RE: Is it worth 1.2 Chits in the Ge/It entry pool ?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:49 pm
by Extraneous
It took me awhile to find it but I think this is the rule Paul is referring to.
ORIGINAL: WiFFE-RAW-7.0.pdf
19.3 Who can enter the minor
Your units can enter hexes controlled by a minor country if:
• you are at war with it or with the major power that controls it; or
• it is conquered by you or another active major power on your side; or
• it is aligned with any active major power on your side and the unit entering is controlled by an active major power (subject to the foreign troop commitment rules ~ see 18.2); or
• it is aligned with a neutral major power on your side and the unit entering is one of that major power’s unit.
RE: Is it worth 1.2 Chits in the Ge/It entry pool ?
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 12:34 am
by palne
No discussion on the impact to CW on loss of oil for oiling ships (mostly, and Armor HQ or course). Without the oil from NEI (yet), is it possible that CW will have operational limitations with running their Navy? It would be great to pinch off the UK operationally while "they stand alone" during 2nd half of 40 and first 1/2 of 41.
Might even force the UK to built their synth oil!
If Japan declares on UK to seize the NEI oil, does that also help pinch the CW?
RE: Is it worth 1.2 Chits in the Ge/It entry pool ?
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:32 am
by paulderynck
It certainly does but the US entry effect can be prodigious, depending on the timing.