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ORIGINAL: UP844

A couple questions about the refit process between scenarios:

1) The Bessarabia Campaign GSASL rules divide eliminated MMC into two categories, depending on the cause of their removal: basically (there are a lot more cases) units eliminated "in combat" (CC, KIA, K) are permanently eliminated from the company OOB, while others are retained. Undoubtedly, not all casualties will be dead, but I think tracking what caused the removal of every single unit in TotH would require a lot of bookkeeping, slowing the game for little gain.
A simplified approach, to make life simpler for everyone, could be as follows: 75% of the casualties are permanently removed from the company OOB, 25% are retained.

2) Are any leaders generated because of Heat of Battle retained in the company OOB?

Yeah the eliminated units would require the extra bookkeeping. For now I will probably consider all eliminated as permanently "in combat" eliminated from the OOB. BUT with the refit you can get at least 4 full squads back and have a really good chance of getting all SW back (along with their crews) if they require one. For example you got all yours back along with 4 full squads, 2 of which should be Elite.

I am trying to carry over any HOB retains Leaders but will be going through the end game file to see exactly who still has what and stuff as far as Battle Hardened units and HOB leader.

ORIGINAL: Peter Fisla

I just want to look at a couple of LOS issues and then the Update 1 will be submitted to matrix games.

Looking forward to it. [:)]

I am still working on the next mission but am taking it slow to make sure I get them right. Also, holding off a little till the patch comes out so we are not caught upgrading mid-mission, etc.

I'm playing my scenario but slowly as I also work on tests for Peters upcoming Update

ORIGINAL: Paullus

I'm playing my scenario but slowly as I also work on tests for Peters upcoming Update

No worries, I figured you were busy with that and updates take priority. [8D]

The upcoming update will change the saved game file format, so make sure you guys finish your missions before you apply the game update.

In view of Peter's last statement, I think it's better we wait until the update is released (In the meantime, okiefire_ssl and I will have some R&R [;)]).

Well, why you two are enjoying yourself prepare yourself for the next mission, "Taking the Highway".

The good thing about trying to build out SASL missions as close to the wording as possible is that I am learning some neat tricks in TotH to try and make the AI do the stuff I want, kind of anyway. [:D]

Would you like to share some of those neat tricks? I think a dedicated thread about scenario design would be interesting.

I agree that would be very helpful.

Indeed it would be helpful to learn (and share) some tricks for scenario design. For now, I'll enjoy some R&R time with UP844. [:)]

Figured I'd post this for reference. It's the mission flow chart for the test GTotH game. Each commander will fight 3 missions (rounds). Mission #1 is on June 22, 1941, Mission #2 is on June 24, 1941, and Mission #3 is on June 26, 1941. The results from one mission will determine what your Company's follow on mission will be.

The perspective of facing a "Tank Attack" will certainly motivate us to "Take the Highway". I had enough trouble dealing with two BT-5s, I'm not eager to see a T-34 or KV from the wrong side of the gun [:D].

It's certainly not 'historical'. I just picked out some follow-on missions that were different to kind of mix things up and see if I am actually able to build the scenarios to a pretty good match from the SASL missions.

Continuing with this playtest, and for reference purposes I will now be posting the 2nd mission (scenario) text file for 2nd and 3rd Companies. Since Paullus is busy with playtesting and assisting Peter we will press on with what we have which are the next missions for UP844 and okiefire_ssl. The German offensive into the Russian Motherland in the vicinity of Kolno continues . . . .

TO THE GERMAN COMMANDER: 2 Coy/2 BN/233 RGT/102 ID

MISSION: Take the Highway
DATE: Day, June 24, 1941
WEATHER: Clear (Visibility Unlimited)

BRIEFING: Your unit has been given the important assignment of clearing one of the main roads leading
eastward out of the 233 Regiment's sector. As you advance along the road all enemy resistance encountered
should be pushed aside away from the roads, making sure that the road remains cleared for all friendly units.
Completion of this task is vital to the success of a follow-on assault that will be made by elements the 3 Battalion
forming up to your rear.

CORE FORCE: The following is your core force;
1x LEADER: Lieutenant B**
1x LEADER: Lieutenant B*
1x LEADER: Sergeant C
12x SQUAD: 1st Line
2x HALF-SQUAD: 1st Line
2x CREW
2x SW: LIGHT MG
2x SW: AT RIFLE
2x SW: LIGHT MTR

VICTORY POINTS: Victory Points will be awarded as follows;
* - The ENEMY gains VP for casualties inflicted on your force.
* - Each side gains 1 VP for each Road Network hex controlled at game end (as indicated on the map).

TEMPORARILY ATTACHED: Battalion has attached the following units to your command for this Mission;
2x CREW w/MMG (from the BN MG Company)

REINFORCEMENTS: Later in the day, the following support units are expected to arrive from the west.
2x PSW 222

MISSION END: At the end of Game Turn 9, and at the end of each Game Turn thereafter, TotH will perform a 'dr'.
If the 'dr' is <=3, the Mission ends immediately. If the 'dr' trigger is not met, the game will end at the conclusion
of Game Turn 15.

HOW TO BEGIN:

1. - Launch TotH, locate and select your Mission Scenario file, Select New Game.

2. - Set the following in the Scenario Configuration Dialog screen;
> SIDE A: COMPUTER PLAYER
> SIDE B: HUMAN PLAYER
> DIFFICULTY: NORMAL
> Fog of War: ENABLED
> Path Quality: HIGH
> Check the 'Russian Radioless AFV Rule in Effect' box if available
> Click OK

3. - BEFORE deploying any units please review in detail each of the following under the Menu tab;
> Scenario Attributes (be sure to check the 'Visibility' setting)
> Scenario Victory
> Scenario Description

4. - Play the Mission to completion.
5. - On the End Game screen, save the game file and attach it to the "Group Tigers on the Hunt - Official Information
and AAR Thread " thread on the Matrix forums. Post an AAR in that same thread when you add the attachment.
The detail level of the AAR is up to you.

Any questions PLEASE feel free to hit me up on the Matrix forums.

TO THE GERMAN COMMANDER: 3 Coy/2 BN/233 RGT/102 ID

MISSION: Take the Highway
DATE: Day, June 24, 1941
WEATHER: Clear (Visibility Unlimited)

BRIEFING: Your unit has been given the important assignment of clearing one of the main roads leading
eastward out of the 233 Regiment's sector. As you advance along the road all enemy resistance encountered
should be pushed aside away from the roads, making sure that the road remains cleared for all friendly units.
Completion of this task is vital to the success of a follow-on assault that will be made by elements the 3 Battalion
forming up to your rear.

CORE FORCE: The following is your core force;
1x LEADER: Lieutenant B*
1x LEADER: Sergeant C*
1x LEADER: Sergeant C
2x SQUAD: Elite
6x SQUAD: 1st Line
2x HALF-SQUAD: 1st Line
2x CREW
2x SW: LIGHT MG
2x SW: AT RIFLE
2x SW: LIGHT MTR

VICTORY POINTS: Victory Points will be awarded as follows;
* - The ENEMY gains VP for casualties inflicted on your force.
* - Each side gains 1 VP for each Road Network hex controlled at game end (as indicated on the map).

DIRECTLY ATTACHED: Battalion has attached the following units to your command for this Mission;
1x CREW w/MMG (from the BN MG Company)

REINFORCEMENTS: No reinforcements are expected during this mission.

MISSION END: At the end of Game Turn 9, and at the end of each Game Turn thereafter, TotH will perform a 'dr'.
If the 'dr' is <=3, the Mission ends immediately. If the 'dr' trigger is not met, the game will end at the conclusion
of Game Turn 15.

HOW TO BEGIN:

1. - Launch TotH, locate and select your Mission Scenario file, Select New Game.

2. - Set the following in the Scenario Configuration Dialog screen;
> SIDE A: COMPUTER PLAYER
> SIDE B: HUMAN PLAYER
> DIFFICULTY: NORMAL
> Fog of War: ENABLED
> Path Quality: HIGH
> Check the 'Russian Radioless AFV Rule in Effect' box if available
> Click OK

3. - BEFORE deploying any units please review in detail each of the following under the Menu tab;
> Scenario Attributes (be sure to check the 'Visibility' setting)
> Scenario Victory
> Scenario Description

4. - Play the Mission to completion.
5. - On the End Game screen, save the game file and attach it to the "Group Tigers on the Hunt - Official Information
and AAR Thread " thread on the Matrix forums. Post an AAR in that same thread when you add the attachment.
The detail level of the AAR is up to you.

Any questions PLEASE feel free to hit me up on the Matrix forums.

UP844, okiefire_ssl . . the game files for the 2nd Mission have been sent via PM. All information should be in the .txt files but let me know if you have any questions.

ORIGINAL: UP844

The perspective of facing a "Tank Attack" will certainly motivate us to "Take the Highway". I had enough trouble dealing with two BT-5s, I'm not eager to see a T-34 or KV from the wrong side of the gun [:D].

Yeah, you don't want to be in that position with the only AT weapons you have are your 2 ATR's. [:D]

I am practicing CC vs AFV a lot [:D]