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ORIGINAL: radic202
I had a friend who loved WW2 games but could not stand WW1 games because he said that ... "no fighter planes per se attacking each other" ...

Your friend could not be any more wrong on this particular subject.

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ORIGINAL: radic202
I had a friend who loved WW2 games but could not stand WW1 games because he said that ... "no fighter planes per se attacking each other" ...

Your friend could not be any more wrong on this particular subject.

warspite1

Well quite, how was the Red Baron killed - for one - if it was not against an RAF Sopwith Camel (piloted by a Canadian by the way)?

There is good reason that WW1 games are few and far between - trying to code the huge changes in land warfare tactics between 1914 and 1918 is very complex. 1914 had lots in common with 1815 and 1918 with 1945. 1914 had little in common with 1918.

Having read Mark Adkin's Western Front Companion I've often thought how would you turn WW1 into a game.

My initial thoughts are to accurately depict the Western Front tactically you probably need to be at no more than Brigade level with no more than a mile wide hex. I'd look at a WEGO system which would better simulate the problems of outrunning communications and artillery co-ordination. However even at that scale with say, day long turns, an operational or strategic game becomes almost impossible.

Well quite, how was the Red Baron killed - for one - if it was not against an RAF Sopwith Camel (piloted by a Canadian by the way)?

Without disparaging Capt. Arthur "Roy" Brown's contribution (which probably saved his friend), the weight of the evidence seems to be that the fatal shot was fired from the ground, likely by an Australian machine gunner.

ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock

Well quite, how was the Red Baron killed - for one - if it was not against an RAF Sopwith Camel (piloted by a Canadian by the way)?

Without disparaging Capt. Arthur "Roy" Brown's contribution (which probably saved his friend), the weight of the evidence seems to be that the fatal shot was fired from the ground, likely by an Australian machine gunner.

warspite1

Maybe - but regardless of who fired the shot - the point is that, unlike the poster's friend's assertion, aerial duals were fought in WWI.

ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock

Well quite, how was the Red Baron killed - for one - if it was not against an RAF Sopwith Camel (piloted by a Canadian by the way)?

Without disparaging Capt. Arthur "Roy" Brown's contribution (which probably saved his friend), the weight of the evidence seems to be that the fatal shot was fired from the ground, likely by an Australian machine gunner.

Agreed...the only question is who on the ground fired the fatal shot.

ORIGINAL: warspite1
Maybe - but regardless of who fired the shot - the point is that, unlike the poster's friend's assertion, aerial duals were fought in WWI.

Fighter plane vs fighter plane was invented and honed in WWI. Most all fighter maneuvers still in use today, were invented and honed in WWI. Popularizing the term "dogfight" for aerial combat was done in WWI.

(and regarding the aside, it was an Australian ground gunner who got Snoopy's nemesis. As the autopsy showed the fatal wounds entered low on his back and exited high... an angle Brown never had on him, but consistent with the angle of the Aussie gunners on the ground at the right time and place.)

Wasn't Sopwith a great little WW1 PC game about 1984?

ORIGINAL: Orm

I found it interesting that The Great War channel analysed the trailer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvzEZ1Sq4tI

Very thorough observations!!!

ORIGINAL: altipueri

Wasn't Sopwith a great little WW1 PC game about 1984?

I don't know how great it was (meaning I never played it myself) but there was a PC game by the name of Sopwith that was released in 1984.

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ORIGINAL: altipueri

Wasn't Sopwith a great little WW1 PC game about 1984?

I don't know how great it was (meaning I never played it myself) but there was a PC game by the name of Sopwith that was released in 1984.

Looks much like Triplane Turmoil