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RE: Microsoft Joy!
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 2:34 pm
by Fallschirmjager
I really like Windows 10. But my good experiences come from a new laptop/tablet and a desktop that I formatted and installed from brand new.
I have two other instances where I tried to do the upgrade and I ran into all kinds of issues. I am by no means definitive. But it seems to work better if you don't go the 'lazy' route and instead format your machine and do a fresh install.
And I don't see how you can complain about a new OS not working with hardware that looks 10 years old.
Going from 2 GB of Ram to 4? [X(]
RE: Microsoft Joy!
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 2:50 pm
by Lowpe
ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager
And I don't see how you can complain about a new OS not working with hardware that looks 10 years old.
Going from 2 GB of Ram to 4? [X(]
I am not complaining about that...simply that Microsoft makes the process sooo painful with lots of pitfalls where the only solution is purchasing new when I fell into their free category.
I am not trying to steal, pirate, or in some other manner ripoff Microsoft.
I am grateful to Microsoft offering Win 10 upgrades for Free. I don't like the forced upgrades and would have been quite content to stick with Win 7 except I wanted to upgrade to 64 bit which I couldn't because the windows was originally installed on the machine at purchase.
I don't like spending two hours on the phone with them and getting nowhere.
Plus, come on, it is only 7 years old.[:D] Heck, 7 years ago I was still using 3.5 inch floppies and nike net at work and I think I probably had at least one win95 machine still running in day to day use. It did the job, and I am not one for upgrading to every new release. I just want to get the job done.
Fair enough?[;)] Finally, how old is this game we are playing? I have a state of the art screamer for it now![8D]
RE: Microsoft Joy!
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 3:02 pm
by BBfanboy
Win 10 is not completely "free". I think the business model is for MS to get a huge installed base of their product so that people will not switch to Apple or other O/S. Then the computer manufacturers and software developers have to pay MS a tithe to use their Win 10 O/S and we pay when we buy the computer or software.
I am OK with paying for a good O/S product but I want the clear choice on a PC I already own. It is infuriating that MS tries to trick you into clicking the wrong button on their Upgrade Now pop-up. Even the fact of having a pop-up interrupt what you are doing is very presumptuous on MS's part. An E-mail is all they should be entitled to.
Late at night, after exiting WITP-AE forums, I once clicked somewhere on the pop-up accidentally (not on a button even) and it said something like "Starting download" so I yanked the power to my modem and killed the download. I waited till next day and rebooted the computer to ensure the download did not restart. It worked.
RE: Microsoft Joy!
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 3:18 pm
by Lowpe
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Win 10 is not completely "free". I think the business model is for MS to get a huge installed base of their product so that people will not switch to Apple or other O/S. Then the computer manufacturers and software developers have to pay MS a tithe to use their Win 10 O/S and we pay when we buy the computer or software.
Well, it didn't work for me...their business policies drove me right into Ubuntu. I think between Linux/Apple and whatever this OS that Steam is making for games they might be in real trouble down the road.
RE: Microsoft Joy!
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 5:52 pm
by geofflambert
Nailed it Korvar. [&o] Which one are you?
RE: Microsoft Joy!
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 5:54 pm
by geofflambert
By the way, what's that thing Uhura sticks in her ear? An early prototype for the iPod?
RE: Microsoft Joy!
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 6:59 pm
by BBfanboy
I think the Borg snuck in and implanted it one night, so they could gather intel on the Enterprise and crew.
Kirk just thinks it is a cheap hearing aid.
RE: Microsoft Joy!
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 8:40 pm
by geofflambert
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RE: Microsoft Joy!
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 9:05 pm
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: witpqs
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Attacked the upgrade to windows 10 64 bit fresh this morning, and while doing many other things a complete success.
Microsoft was kind enough to validate the install.
Now I am loading up all the programs I use and trying to figure out how best I can save what is left of my privacy...if nothing else make'em work to violate it. At least a little.
Son is very happy as the release date for Warhammer is tomorrow I think. I am less happy because it was so painful to do...but it is done now.
Back to the wars with a reinvigorated machine![:)]
The privacy thing got over-worked in the press. Many things were already back-ported to older versions of Windows, and others are already in services/apps from other vendors. Thing to do is just go through the Settings item by item and turn off any one you want.
One thing that really fanned the flames was someone's claim that they turned off all those things and then found Windows was still sending out personal stuff over the wire - but the claim was (possibly deliberately) false. A week or two after the claim was made a tech journalist/writer decided to replicate it on his own machine. He installed W10 with all the settings to keep things private, looked on the wire and... nothing! After he contacted the author, the author sort of 'disappeared', even taking down the blog web site where he had written the article. A little unclear what was the original intent, but obviously the original article was not legit.
W10 (and any other OS) privacy is a genuine concern you do have to pay attention to, but just hit the settings, including maybe searching for articles that have covered which settings to pay attention to. Ignore the fear-mongering like that article I referred to.
Lowpe - just saw this summary (there are others):
How to review your privacy on Windows 10
RE: Microsoft Joy!
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 11:03 pm
by Lowpe
Ran my first turn on Windows 10, and after a few experiments with the switches, I got the machine blistering thru the replay...what was usually relatively long duration late war bombardments, and aerial bombardments went so fast after accelerating them - if I blinked I would miss it.
Very happy with the performance on Windows 10! Course, I beefed my machine up but the acceleration is really fast.
Couldn't be more pleased.[:)] All the work to make the upgrade and avoid the traps is time I will recover from watching the replays. Might take a month, but there you have it!
Two thumbs up!
RE: Microsoft Joy!
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 11:12 pm
by Lowpe
Thanks, I read it. [&o] Already did most of it.[:)] But, I am sure they will get their information...just want to make it a little difficult for them.[;)]