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ORIGINAL: Crossroads

I re-read "Red Storm Rising" this summer, probably the first re-read since it came out. Oh, at the time I probably read it a couple of times over. Still, was a bit of a surprise how little land combat the book actually has. A shame really, as the book is absolutely rocking through those few chapters! No wonder those memories stuck in [:)]

Team Yankee seems botched up as a Kindle edition, too bad. I'll try Chieftains next then [:)]

Just a quick follow up, having finished reading the Kindle edition. I had put buying this off quite a few time due to Amazon.com reviews such as:

3.0 out of 5 stars

Read the hardcover or paperback version. This digital version is Butchered.

ByRobert J. Longon June 24, 2015
Format: Kindle Edition|Verified Purchase
I read this book in paperback when it first came out and enjoyed it. However, the digital version is simply butchered.
The novel was not scanned and digitized, it was transcribed with grammatical errors galore.
For those thinking of getting the kindle version be advised that words like "down" has been replaced with clown. And "thing" replaced with thong.

Of all digital books, this one has been through a meat grinder and I would recommend spending the time with the printed version than the digital version.

Happy to report this is not true with the current version available. So if you have an idle tenner and have not read this yet, recommended action! Tank action especially is very nicely written, while the infantry action seems to be a bit high with John-Wayne-stuff, at least based on the infantry training I took while serving as Mot Arty guy. But a recommended read regardless [:)]

I'm surprised nobody mentioned Tom Clancy's Armored Cav. It is a bit dated, but it covers what an Armored Cavalry Regiment would've looked like during the Red Storm period quite nicely. It also has a good account of the Battle of 73 Easting, well worth the read.
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Has anyone here read The Effect series by Harvey Black? Opening book is available for Kindle for a fiver, might as well buy it but thought to ask first.

I am pretty sure there is a thread on these books somewhere in the forums.

Here tm.asp?m=3488985&mpage=1&key=Black%2Ceffect

Thanks Jim, just what I was hoping, and pointers to further fiction as well! Seems not perfect, but it's there and worth to have a look at least [:)]

Time to resurrect this one.

I actually went and ordered this, cost a bit, but I thought why not. Could have asked for impressions, first, of course. But since there was a thumbs up at Amazon.com by a nick called "Mad Russian"; I thought that's all I need [:'(]

Anyone's read this?



The actual full name of the book is: "NATO under attack - Why the Western Alliance can fight outnumbered and win in Central Europe without nuclear weapons." From 1984. By a certain Von Mellenthin et al.

Mad Russian
5.0 out of 5 stars Five Stars
Reviewed in the United States on 21 January 2016
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Good information on a hard to find subject.

[:'(]

'First Clash' by Kenneth Macksey is really worth the read. Written by a Canadian Army officer as a narrative training aid for junior officers in 1985, it accurately reflects Canadian Army and Soviet Army ORBAT and doctrine in a well-written and enjoyable novel (from memory). I certainly rate it as more realistic than Team Yankee and features increasingly dated Canadian equipment of the period, such as Lynx C&R, Leopard C1 and M113. Based on what I know of upcoming Southern Storm, it could be quite a relevant read with the introduction of Canada and 4 CMBG.

ORIGINAL: Panzer_Leader

'First Clash' by Kenneth Macksey is really worth the read. Written by a Canadian Army officer as a narrative training aid for junior officers in 1985, it accurately reflects Canadian Army and Soviet Army ORBAT and doctrine in a well-written and enjoyable novel (from memory). I certainly rate it as more realistic than Team Yankee and features increasingly dated Canadian equipment of the period, such as Lynx C&R, Leopard C1 and M113. Based on what I know of upcoming Southern Storm, it could be quite a relevant read with the introduction of Canada and 4 CMBG.

Thanks for the tip, there were a good few second hand copies available at Amazon UK, ordered one [:)]

Glad I inspired you to take a look at it. I seem to remember it ending fairly abruptly, but a number of these Cold War gone hot titles do (Red Army springs to mind). I guess it’s hard to end a World War Three novel neatly if you want to avoid a nuclear Armageddon...

ORIGINAL: Panzer_Leader

Glad I inspired you to take a look at it. I seem to remember it ending fairly abruptly, but a number of these Cold War gone hot titles do (Red Army springs to mind). I guess it’s hard to end a World War Three novel neatly if you want to avoid a nuclear Armageddon...

Here we go, then, gotta love the smell of new (at least to me, in this case) books in the morning [:)]

I will start with von Mellenthin, then check how the First Clash plays into his vision

Team Yankee ,

In my opinion , is not only a good read , its also a excellent way to ease the learning curve for FP:RS . A fantastic introduction to Cold War era warfare and the US Army structure of the day , it also gives a very clear and accurate look at what the "planned" overall Strategy for NATO was if things went HOT .

I would very much recommend it to anyone interested in learning more about that time in history . Even more so if someone was looking for a good first read on the subject . Its a fast paced story and will lead you to want more, and that "Screams" for the what i would offer as a follow up to it, Mr. Clancy and the timeless RED STORM RISING. After these two, the World is your oyster , you have so much to choose from on the topic , you almost cannot go wrong.


Again, nothing more than one mans opinion , Cheers !

P.S. Come on Garger , finally removed your head from your arse , only to loose it again.

Stone Dog