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RE: Naval Support strength not showing up
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:12 pm
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Yaab
This fix was for inland bases with no port capability which showed NS available when in range of Naval HQ.
So for level 0 ports it does not SHOW naval support but as per Tracker the NS is really there??
RE: Naval Support strength not showing up
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:34 pm
by gottagofish
Okay, to be clear, the issue is I have built up the port size at a number of (0) ports. I have moved naval support to the port to beef up capacity. I do not believe the port recognizes that there are naval support units there as the base summary screen shows no support at the base. I cannot unload some items on ships with a load cost of 360 when I should be able to at a (3) port with sufficient naval support.
Does this make sense?
RE: Naval Support strength not showing up
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 4:05 pm
by BillBrown
I do not know what you are doing, but they show up for me.
Port started at 0(0) and built to 3(0). 27 NS show up on the display.

RE: Naval Support strength not showing up
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:42 am
by mussey
I updated to 1126b, but it has not resolved this issue, Naval Support still not showing up in main Base Screen:

RE: Naval Support strength not showing up
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:43 am
by mussey
... even though I have 199 Naval Support at base in combat mode, with an additional Command HQ several hexes away:

RE: Naval Support strength not showing up
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:46 am
by mussey
Bill, looking at your screenshot I noticed the "+24 Shore Party". I've never seen this before, how do you get this?
RE: Naval Support strength not showing up
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:45 am
by szmike
ORIGINAL: mussey
Bill, looking at your screenshot I noticed the "+24 Shore Party". I've never seen this before, how do you get this?
it's a flag in editor for some devices. It's used in DaBabes and mods based on them, its function is to help with loading/unloading only.
RE: Naval Support strength not showing up
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:41 pm
by mussey
ORIGINAL: szmike
ORIGINAL: mussey
Bill, looking at your screenshot I noticed the "+24 Shore Party". I've never seen this before, how do you get this?
it's a flag in editor for some devices. It's used in DaBabes and mods based on them, its function is to help with loading/unloading only.
I luv it, need to get some of that.
Is there any chance my problem can be coming from Andy's recent Ironman beta? Not sure how many others are playing it...
RE: Naval Support strength not showing up
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:53 pm
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: mussey
ORIGINAL: szmike
ORIGINAL: mussey
Bill, looking at your screenshot I noticed the "+24 Shore Party". I've never seen this before, how do you get this?
it's a flag in editor for some devices. It's used in DaBabes and mods based on them, its function is to help with loading/unloading only.
I luv it, need to get some of that.
Is there any chance my problem can be coming from Andy's recent Ironman beta? Not sure how many others are playing it...
To clarify: Naval Support
includes that ability. Shore Party is
only that ability (helps with loading/unloading but
not the rest of Naval Support abilities).
RE: Naval Support strength not showing up
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:58 pm
by BillBrown
And Naval Support is reduced a bunch in those scenarios.
RE: Naval Support strength not showing up
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:08 pm
by gottagofish
Thanks Mussey for getting those screen shots. I couldn't figure out how to get it. I'm not on any of the mods.
RE: Naval Support strength not showing up
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:04 pm
by mussey
ORIGINAL: Marauder Jack
Thanks Mussey for getting those screen shots. I couldn't figure out how to get it. I'm not on any of the mods.
Misery likes company, and apearantly it affects only us two. We broke the system!

RE: Naval Support strength not showing up
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:24 pm
by witpqs
I can confirm that with 11.25.10 - the latest Beta - Naval Support is not showing up on the base display for at least one base. Daito Shoto has a Command HQ (in Combat mode) with 120 Naval Support and none is shown on the base display.

RE: Naval Support strength not showing up
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:46 pm
by witpqs
This is the turn file I received where I saw what is shown in the screen pic.
RE: Naval Support strength not showing up
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 7:34 pm
by BillBrown
I think it is in the beta. I am using the last official patch.
I am not real sure if what is happening is what is supposed to happen.
3/04/2016: [1125.10]
Fix position in aircraft database list not being restored
Tweak speed run-in to be consistent for missions where mission speed is set
Change to randomize the ship experience due to firing flak, with distinct between combat and non-comabt surface ships
Fix for only ships actually firing AAA count to count towards experience
[allow AI to use replenish air groups on land]
Fix for ports with no potential to show 0 naval support/ shore parties
Fix to show balloon hit message in night phase air phase
Fix to ensure sub-units’ parent is not inactive (no parent is active while subunits in play)
A quick test and yes it is the beta. Using the latest beta the same base shows no naval support.
RE: Naval Support strength not showing up
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:00 am
by Yaab
This fix was for bases defined as AIRBASES which have no port capability i.e inland bases with no access to navigable river/sea. Prior to the fix, the Naval HQ in Colombo gave its Naval Support to the inland base of Dambulla on Ceylon. Also in RHS mod, where rivers are navigable and the number of bases was upped, Naval HQs gave their NS to a plethora of inland bases in China. The fix in no way should affect bases defined as PORTS.
RE: Naval Support strength not showing up
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:35 am
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Yaab
This fix was for bases defined as AIRBASES which have no port capability i.e inland bases with no access to navigable river/sea. Prior to the fix, the Naval HQ in Colombo gave its Naval Support to the inland base of Dambulla on Ceylon. Also in RHS mod, where rivers are navigable and the number of bases was upped, Naval HQs gave their NS to a plethora of inland bases in China. The fix in no way should affect bases defined as PORTS.
But unintended consequences are
always waiting to ambush a programmer ... [:@]
RE: Naval Support strength not showing up
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:50 pm
by mussey
ORIGINAL: witpqs
I can confirm that with 11.25.10 - the latest Beta - Naval Support is not showing up on the base display for at least one base. Daito Shoto has a Command HQ (in Combat mode) with 120 Naval Support and none is shown on the base display.
+3

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