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RE: Strategic Bombing
Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 5:45 pm
by zuluhour
By the time I was done the game, turn 1575, a quarter of the VP were from a bomb attacks and B29 (manpower) raids. It softened the reality my arse was handed to me. [;)]
RE: Strategic Bombing
Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 5:47 pm
by Lowpe
ORIGINAL: obvert
Strat bombing Manpower is the single most devastating tool in the Allied arsenal. It works best on two targets: Tokyo and Osaka.
Large manpower centres are lit on fire by strikes and burn for days, also randomly destroying every other kind of industry, factory and shipyard. Other HI targets with medium levels of manpower are still worthy targets, but Tokyo and Osaka have so much HI/LI, plus everything else, that this REALLy puts the hurt on the Japanese economy.
Often after a raid the fires would keep buying for a week! [:(]
Say it isn't so![:D]
RE: Strategic Bombing
Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 6:20 pm
by Lokasenna
ORIGINAL: Lecivius
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
I've never seen regular bombing of Manpower cause a "firestorm" that destroys points of industry, only damages them. I've done a lot of strat bombing, although perhaps some others have more experience with it than I do.
I would have to really search (and at work, time constrains me) but I am almost certain 'firestorms' can't be caused in game. I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will chime in, but there have been several discussions about this over the years. Fires, yes. Not firestorms.
I dropped an a-bomb 2 days ago that definitely destroyed industry. Tokyo is down to 80ish points of Manpower - almost all of that damaged - and it started with 150ish. This has led me to believe that "firestorm" is basically code for "a-bomb effects."
RE: Strategic Bombing
Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 12:50 am
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Lecivius
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
I've never seen regular bombing of Manpower cause a "firestorm" that destroys points of industry, only damages them. I've done a lot of strat bombing, although perhaps some others have more experience with it than I do.
I would have to really search (and at work, time constrains me) but I am almost certain 'firestorms' can't be caused in game. I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will chime in, but there have been several discussions about this over the years. Fires, yes. Not firestorms.
Check witpqs's AAR a couple of years back. He regularly created firestorms over 500,000 and in at least one attack, over 1,000,000! But it is not the initial fires that seem to destroy industry, but the ones that linger for days afterward. So it seems the model is: initial fire levels = light buildings burning, persistent fire levels = heavy industrial buildings burning. They are much more likely to be damaged but I know at least some industry is destroyed.
RE: Strategic Bombing
Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 1:26 am
by Lokasenna
But that's not a firestorm. It's just a really high level of fires.
Re: Strategic Bombing
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:06 pm
by Skyros
BUMP - FIRESTORM DISCUSSION