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RE: Map Icons: NTDS/NATO or Stylized?

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:45 pm
by Filitch
ORIGINAL: mikmyk
Nobody cares if you can hack the application. This childish threat is a guaranteed way to get yourself ignored.
Mike
I specially wrote a smiley. It's just a joke.

RE: Map Icons: NTDS/NATO or Stylized?

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:09 pm
by AndrewJ
NTDS for me.

RE: Map Icons: NTDS/NATO or Stylized?

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 4:16 am
by Lunex
NTDS - I think it became standard for a reason :)

RE: Map Icons: NTDS/NATO or Stylized?

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:26 am
by Galahad78
ORIGINAL: Primarchx

I used to run Harpoon with stylized but Command has been NTDS from Day 1.

Same here. I cannot play old Harpoon with NATO icons, and playing CMANO with Stylized seems like...heretic. It's absurd, I know [:D]
Nobody cares if you can hack the application. This childish threat is a guaranteed way to get yourself ignored.

Mike

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RE: Map Icons: NTDS/NATO or Stylized?

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:21 am
by Filitch
My first attempt to use custom symbols in CMANO failed due color inconsistency between color of symbol and color of bearing line. In SR7 the new feature - directional symbols - appears (thanks to Baloogan). I made new attempt to use Soviet map symbols. I created set of symbols in PNG format with dimensions 96x96 px. Without bearing line they look better. For example: surface group and helo symbols look enough good. Some image defects may be caused by the imperfection of the original symbol. But the surface contact symbol is heavy corrupted. And main misfortune. Colors of symbols and lines drew by CMANO UI engine are not match. For example: color of the hostile surface contact is blue, but color of the contact area around the symbol is drew red. Is it possible to make colors of lines customizable?

RE: Map Icons: NTDS/NATO or Stylized?

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:21 am
by Filitch
Surface group and helos look enough good

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RE: Map Icons: NTDS/NATO or Stylized?

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:23 am
by Filitch
Surface contact symbol is heavy corrupted

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RE: Map Icons: NTDS/NATO or Stylized?

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:24 am
by Filitch
Colors of symbols and lines drew by CMANO UI engine are not match

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RE: Map Icons: NTDS/NATO or Stylized?

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:07 am
by LordFlashheart
Oddly enough, I was privileged to have a look inside a professional distributed military training centre recently (think CMANO + DCS)for virtual Red Flag type exercises.

On their display screens I expected to see NATO symbology for the assets in play - but it turns out they are using not only stylised symbols, - but platform-specific top-down silhouettes for ease of comprehension...

Stylised then isn't any less realistic, in some regards....(!)

RE: Map Icons: NTDS/NATO or Stylized?

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:18 am
by Dysta
ORIGINAL: LordFlashheart

Red Flag type exercises.
Because they aren't Navy? (Hence the NTDS's 'N' )

RE: Map Icons: NTDS/NATO or Stylized?

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:44 am
by Gunner98
And if you want to know how the Army does it: APP-6a

http://www.mapsymbs.com/APP-6ADRDCValca ... 1(Mod).pdf

or more simply

www.military.com/ResourcesSubmittedFile ... _Guide.pdf


Something that has always bugged me - the Army uses the symbol for a Forward observation officer as a triangle with a dot (representing a cannon ball believe it or not) in the middle. Since those are the guys often calling in airstrikes, you wold think someone would work out any friction.

The Airforce symbol for a target ----- a triangle with a dot in the middle of it (to represent the DMPI I believe).

No chance for mix up there!

I cannot find a standard set of Air Force Tactical Data symbols though... Probably no looking in the right spot.

B

RE: Map Icons: NTDS/NATO or Stylized?

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:53 am
by Dysta
Ahh, the famous symbols in ARMA series.

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RE: Map Icons: NTDS/NATO or Stylized?

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:28 am
by stilesw
Gunnar98,

Good information. I've added the documents to the library. Thanks.

-Wayne

RE: Map Icons: NTDS/NATO or Stylized?

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:38 pm
by Nangleator
NTDS, from Harpoon days.

I also tend to turn off the map overlay so it's all black, with coastlines and borders. Also, from Harpoon experience. I also kind of miss the crazy blue background of the "AEGIS" display option from Harpoon.

RE: Map Icons: NTDS/NATO or Stylized?

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:45 pm
by solops
NATO all games, land, sea and air.

RE: Map Icons: NTDS/NATO or Stylized?

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:19 pm
by Rory Noonan
ORIGINAL: Nangleator

NTDS, from Harpoon days.

I also tend to turn off the map overlay so it's all black, with coastlines and borders. Also, from Harpoon experience. I also kind of miss the crazy blue background of the "AEGIS" display option from Harpoon.

Or the orange-brown of the... other one, I forget what it was called.

Is there a way to get these colours into CMANO?

RE: Map Icons: NTDS/NATO or Stylized?

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:13 am
by Kushan04
Normally I prefer NATO symbols but the directional stylized (new in the SR7 release) are growing on me.

RE: Map Icons: NTDS/NATO or Stylized?

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:07 am
by Stardog765
Ya I am in the same boat after seeing them in your stream last night.
I am curious though, why are the sub symbols so big compared to the other symbols? Is that the way it is supposed to be?
Seems a little weird but I am liking them alot.


RE: Map Icons: NTDS/NATO or Stylized?

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:10 pm
by dox44
have used NATO all my life but now prefer stylized.

thanks!

RE: Map Icons: NTDS/NATO or Stylized?

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:39 am
by tjhkkr
ORIGINAL: Dysta

Ahh, the famous symbols in ARMA series.

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These are sort of interesting.