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ORIGINAL: warspite1
Isn't this the same number as Pearl Harbor

Not exactly. The only movie I'm familiar with that dealt with the subject of the Pearl Harbor attacks was Tora, Tora, Tora.

Now that you mention it, there was a steaming pile of fetid guano with the title Pearl Harbor from a few years back. That wasn't so much a movie as a video series to aid in induction of emesis amongst poisoning victims. In that sense, it's served its purpose oh so well! I'm getting nauseous just thinking about it. [:)]

ORIGINAL: JReb

There is a lot of room to explore with this movie besides just the air combat alone. The psychological effects on the pilots, the bombing effects on the citizens taking cover in the subway tunnels, the fatigue of mission after mission after mission, what happened to pilots shot down over land and water, volunteers from other countries, fire fighting after the raids, role radar played. Lots to explore here.

If there is to be a heavy focus on the air to air battles, lets hope Scott has some new, innovative ideas on how to film the scene where the action is comprehensible to the watching audience. Its hard to follow the action in a dog fight scene for too long and 90-120 minute movie is a lot of time to fill.

warspite1

Interesting that all of what you list was covered (to a greater or lesser extent) in the 1969 film. I agree, there is tons to explore in this period and every chance of another damn good film.

ORIGINAL: Neilster
One on the St Nazaire raid would be an excellent story to explore.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Nazaire_Raid

A capital idea.[8D]

ORIGINAL: JReb

There is a lot of room to explore with this movie besides just the air combat alone. The psychological effects on the pilots, the bombing effects on the citizens taking cover in the subway tunnels, the fatigue of mission after mission after mission, what happened to pilots shot down over land and water, volunteers from other countries, fire fighting after the raids, role radar played. Lots to explore here.

If there is to be a heavy focus on the air to air battles, lets hope Scott has some new, innovative ideas on how to film the scene where the action is comprehensible to the watching audience. Its hard to follow the action in a dog fight scene for too long and 90-120 minute movie is a lot of time to fill.

Agreed. And can we leave out the seemingly ubiquitous unrequited love interest side plot for once? Seems like you can't make a war movie these days without some such nonsense. Less tonsil hockey, more shootin' Jerry. [:-]

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ORIGINAL: warspite1
Isn't this the same number as Pearl Harbor

Not exactly. The only movie I'm familiar with that dealt with the subject of the Pearl Harbor attacks was Tora, Tora, Tora.

Now that you mention it, there was a steaming pile of fetid guano with the title Pearl Harbor from a few years back. That wasn't so much a movie as a video series to aid in induction of emesis amongst poisoning victims. In that sense, it's served its purpose oh so well! I'm getting nauseous just thinking about it. [:)]

warspite1

The word on the street is that Ridley Scott's new Battle of Britain film is to be a prequal for Pearl Harbor and will star Affleck and Damon and will show the true story of how Rafw McCauley won the battle.

I would like to see Ridley do Tora Tora Tora remake.

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: warspite1
Isn't this the same number as Pearl Harbor

Not exactly. The only movie I'm familiar with that dealt with the subject of the Pearl Harbor attacks was Tora, Tora, Tora.

Now that you mention it, there was a steaming pile of fetid guano with the title Pearl Harbor from a few years back. That wasn't so much a movie as a video series to aid in induction of emesis amongst poisoning victims. In that sense, it's served its purpose oh so well! I'm getting nauseous just thinking about it. [:)]

warspite1

The word on the street is that Ridley Scott's new Battle of Britain film is to be a prequal for Pearl Harbor and will star Affleck and Damon and will show the true story of how Rafw McCauley won the battle.

I think it's high time their stories get told (and retold...and embellished perhaps just a bit...and told again...and made out of whole cloth...then told again).

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy




Not exactly. The only movie I'm familiar with that dealt with the subject of the Pearl Harbor attacks was Tora, Tora, Tora.

Now that you mention it, there was a steaming pile of fetid guano with the title Pearl Harbor from a few years back. That wasn't so much a movie as a video series to aid in induction of emesis amongst poisoning victims. In that sense, it's served its purpose oh so well! I'm getting nauseous just thinking about it. [:)]

warspite1

The word on the street is that Ridley Scott's new Battle of Britain film is to be a prequal for Pearl Harbor and will star Affleck and Damon and will show the true story of how Rafw McCauley won the battle.

I think it's high time their stories get told (and retold...and embellished perhaps just a bit...and told again...and made out of whole cloth...then told again).

Maybe he can do for the Battle of Britain what he did for Robin Hood.

ORIGINAL: Mobius

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warspite1

The word on the street is that Ridley Scott's new Battle of Britain film is to be a prequal for Pearl Harbor and will star Affleck and Damon and will show the true story of how Rafw McCauley won the battle.

I think it's high time their stories get told (and retold...and embellished perhaps just a bit...and told again...and made out of whole cloth...then told again).

Maybe he can do for the Battle of Britain what he did for Robin Hood.

[:D][:D]
The Movie That Shall Not Be Mentioned II?

ORIGINAL: Mobius

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warspite1

The word on the street is that Ridley Scott's new Battle of Britain film is to be a prequal for Pearl Harbor and will star Affleck and Damon and will show the true story of how Rafw McCauley won the battle.

I think it's high time their stories get told (and retold...and embellished perhaps just a bit...and told again...and made out of whole cloth...then told again).

Maybe he can do for the Battle of Britain what he did for Robin Hood.

Well, at least Robin Hood: Men in Tights let some of the pressure off of him after that hot mess. Mobius: are you telling me that Kevin Costner's accent isn't English? [X(]

Fingers crossed it isn't hollywoodised..these days I prefer Russianised War films..at least they stick to the actual conflict and not throw in a love story aswell.

ORIGINAL: Mobius

While there is a running Tiger I he or someone should do a Michael Wittmann movie.

What is the potential market for a movie about an SS dude who wastes Allied soldiers? Not big.

Cheers, Neilster

ORIGINAL: warspite1
A new Sink the Bismarck would be good too though [:)]

As long as it is based on "Pursuit" by Ludovic Kennedy.

ORIGINAL: Neilster

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ORIGINAL: Mobius

How many Battle of Britain movies does there need to be? Off you go Mr. Scott.
(Is Russell Crowe going to have a cameo as Churchill?)


Now it he was going to make a Bismarck movie in color then I might go see it.

warspite1

If they make this, doesn't that make two? Isn't this the same number as Pearl Harbor - and would be the same number as Bismarck if they made another of that film.....

A new Sink the Bismarck would be good too though [:)]

Of course the less said about the latter Pearl Harbor movie the better. With modern special effects, there's potential for plenty of spectacular new WW2 movies. One on the St Nazaire raid would be an excellent story to explore.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Nazaire_Raid

Here's a Jeremy Clarkson documentary about it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXusKM5uX0s&t=21s

Cheers, Neilster

@Mobius

As warspite1 stated this will be the second one. At least that I'm aware of. Considering the monumental importance of the battle and the RAF victory I don't think two is excessive.



@Neilster

The St. Nazaire raid would make for a great war film. I'm surprised it hasn't already been made. I actually considered writing a screenplay about it at one point. It would be akin to Where Eagles Dare except it would have the virtue of being true.[:)]

I don't have a problem with CGI if it's done well. Ridley Scott is one of our greatest living directors and I'm looking forward to seeing what he does with the battle and the story in general.

I'm glad a British director is making a new Battle of Britain film.

The St. Nazaire raid would make for a great war film. I'm surprised it hasn't already been made

No Americans in it. It could have been made in the 50s, 60s or the early 70s as a British production but since then, and up until very recently, the financial reality of the movie business has been that unless it appealed to American audiences, there wouldn't be the budget to make such a film with decent special effects.

CGI has radically reduced the costs of doing believable special effects, and the international market is a bigger proportion of a film's revenue, so this situation appears to be changing. Good.

Also, when done correctly, CGI is indistinguishable from reality. You see great CGI all the time; it's just that you don't recognise it because it's seamless. Humans are still very difficult to do without the plunge into the "uncanny valley" but machines, action and explosions are all fantastic now.

I know a bit about this stuff as I have a Computing degree, did Computer Graphics in 3rd year and keep up with the state of the art.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley

Cheers, Neilster

ORIGINAL: Neilster

The St. Nazaire raid would make for a great war film. I'm surprised it hasn't already been made

No Americans in it.

Yes, that was my take on it also. That's the unfortunate reality with this sort of war film.

Due to the absence of Americans being present in the actual raid perhaps American actors could play the German characters. [:D]

Ridley Scott is 79, and it appears he has several movies to make before getting to this one. I hope he makes it.

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ORIGINAL: Neilster

The St. Nazaire raid would make for a great war film. I'm surprised it hasn't already been made

No Americans in it.

Yes, that was my take on it also. That's the unfortunate reality with this sort of war film.

Due to the absence of Americans being present in the actual raid perhaps American actors could play the German characters. [:D]

The lack of historical Americans has never stopped Hollywood from putting them in a film. [:D]

While you wait for this, console yourselves with this:

http://www.dunkirkmovie.com/

ORIGINAL: wodin

Fingers crossed it isn't hollywoodised..these days I prefer Russianised War films..at least they stick to the actual conflict and not throw in a love story aswell.

Sorry, their backing from "Mother Russia" and intrinsic 'patriotic' (read: Soviet now Russian propaganda) twist on things from the Great Patriotic War are too much for me to stomach.

What's that? Yes, the American studios do something only slightly less repulsive in terms of beating our own drum. It just rankles me too much as the Soviets / Russians to put them on even ground. Sorry. To each their own.

But I hear ya about the superfluous love story. Boy do I hear ya.