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RE: Iwo Jima...Shock Attack Problem

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:14 pm
by rustysi
There are two Christmas Islands in the game ...
It IS an atoll TYPE. It IS a Very Large size.

One atoll, Pacific. One very large, Indian Ocean.


RE: Iwo Jima...Shock Attack Problem

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:53 am
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: rustysi
There are two Christmas Islands in the game ...
It IS an atoll TYPE. It IS a Very Large size.

One atoll, Pacific. One very large, Indian Ocean.


Per the manual, Appendix B, this is not correct.

Page 291. Christmas Island, US Navy, 174,141, SIZE = Very Large, Terrain = Atoll

Page 292, Christmas Island IO, Australian, 45, 104, SIZE= Medium, Terrain = Jungle

App. B is useful for finding island data for planning landings. There are a couple of odd ducks in the Atoll family. Another is Anaa Island. French, 178, 179, Medium, Atoll.

RE: Iwo Jima...Shock Attack Problem

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:58 pm
by Lokasenna
ORIGINAL: witpqs

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna




But Christmas also says "Atoll" on the map.

It IS an atoll TYPE. It IS a Very Large size. I've never looked at the map that closely. I use Appendix B. in the manual.

The code, as reported by the dev who looked at it in the thread I posted (BigJ62, Post #4), is an OR statement. Specifically he said "oops my mistake just looked at code again and it is looking for atoll or sz 1 or sz 2 so your above example would trigger a shock attack."

A patch notes search on "shock" and "shock attack" doesn't show any modifications to this.
My recent PBM confirmed it for me. No atoll but size 1 or size 2 still triggers a shock attack.

Well alright then. I've clearly just never had it come up. How many islands size 1 or 2 are there? About 5? [:'(]

RE: Iwo Jima...Shock Attack Problem

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 5:13 pm
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

Well alright then. I've clearly just never had it come up. How many islands size 1 or 2 are there? About 5? [:'(]

S'alright. In ten years I have never attacked, defended, seen, or run into Anaa Island. French vacation spot, kept secret from Anglo-Saxons apparently.

RE: Iwo Jima...Shock Attack Problem

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 5:22 pm
by Lokasenna
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

Well alright then. I've clearly just never had it come up. How many islands size 1 or 2 are there? About 5? [:'(]

S'alright. In ten years I have never attacked, defended, seen, or run into Anaa Island. French vacation spot, kept secret from Anglo-Saxons apparently.

I should have specified: size 1 or 2 that aren't also atolls?

Maybe the Bonins and that's it?

RE: Iwo Jima...Shock Attack Problem

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 5:33 pm
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

Well alright then. I've clearly just never had it come up. How many islands size 1 or 2 are there? About 5? [:'(]

S'alright. In ten years I have never attacked, defended, seen, or run into Anaa Island. French vacation spot, kept secret from Anglo-Saxons apparently.

I should have specified: size 1 or 2 that aren't also atolls?

Maybe the Bonins and that's it?

Nope. Look in App. B. Just in the first part of the 'A's I found three. There are lots.

RE: Iwo Jima...Shock Attack Problem

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 5:57 pm
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58




S'alright. In ten years I have never attacked, defended, seen, or run into Anaa Island. French vacation spot, kept secret from Anglo-Saxons apparently.

I should have specified: size 1 or 2 that aren't also atolls?

Maybe the Bonins and that's it?

Nope. Look in App. B. Just in the first part of the 'A's I found three. There are lots.
Yes, lots. And appendix B does not list all the bases added in many mods, for example Babes (though not sure how many added bases are islands).

RE: Iwo Jima...Shock Attack Problem

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:41 pm
by Lokasenna
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58




S'alright. In ten years I have never attacked, defended, seen, or run into Anaa Island. French vacation spot, kept secret from Anglo-Saxons apparently.

I should have specified: size 1 or 2 that aren't also atolls?

Maybe the Bonins and that's it?

Nope. Look in App. B. Just in the first part of the 'A's I found three. There are lots.

Maybe literally lots (as in they exist on the map). But functionally lots (as in people are going to go there in a game)?

I always figured Abemama was an atoll anyway, and the same with Aogashima. Abemama is an obvious one, and Aogashima is a possibility.

I guess there's Batan Island.

So OK, there are several - I just always thought they were atolls also. Shows how much I know.

RE: Iwo Jima...Shock Attack Problem

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:58 pm
by rustysi
Aogashima

I've seen photo's of this place, its truly incredibly beautiful. Hardly a place for a base though. Essentially a rock jutting up from the sea. Wish I could remember where I found them.

Edit: Thanks for the correction Moose.[;)]