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Sent you a PM Zak

Yes 4K has been interesting. I picked up a ASUS display up at Fry's when it was on sale a few years ago and never looked back. I run two now.
Pros and Cons about 4K

Pros:
Huge display so you can have tons of windows open.
Games and movies look fantastic.

Cons:
Text becomes very small. I have mine adjusted so Icons and desktop text is larger, its much better after doing that.
Not all game UI's scale so menus and what not are very small. Mostly related to older games tho.
Takes a beefy GPU to get good FPS out of a lot of games... like Battlefield line etc.
Some games do not support 4K resolutions. You can switch to lower resolution but doing so will often reset your desktop, even if you run the game in window mode, or it will be small on your screen.

I would say stay away from 4K for gaming right now.

I would say stay away from 4K for gaming right now.

agreed, until full support with the game i play, i won't be going down the hardware route for a few more years as yet either

ORIGINAL: Konflict

Hi Matrix

Been watching this game for some time now. Finally Steam Summer Sale and I grabbed it

The game seems to run just fine but scrolling around is very sluggish and so is zooming in and out.
The game appears to be at version 1.06, fresh download from Steam today, no updates available.

My system is not really a gamer system, but rather a workstation.
Motherboard: ASUS Z10PE-D16 WS
CPU: 2x E5-2699v3
RAM: 256GB DDR4
GPU: ASUS Strix gtx1080 TI OC
OS Drive: 2x 1TB SSD's in Raid 0
OS: Windows 10 Pro

Any ideas on sluggish graphics performance ?

Thanks for your input.

Nice rig!
There is a rather complex explanation for this. It was once discussed in Beta I believe.
You seem to have a PC config combination from hell for this game. [:(] But I might have a workaround that's acceptable.

The game doesn't use 3D rendering, so the 1080ti won't do you much good i'm affraid.
So the bigger the resolution, the more it needs to render at the same time, so the slower it gets.
Especially for the CPU. It draws layer over layer I believe. You can see some of it as the names get drawn on the screen.

I run at 2560x1400 and 1920x1080 on my other PC(same specs) and there's a big difference.
My suggestion would be to set the scaling setting in the Nvidia panel to Monitor scaling instead of GPU scaling.
Then set the desktop resolution to 1920x1080 so you get a perfect x2 scaling on your 4k monitor.
The game gets forced to the desktop resolution, so i'm affraid this is the only way to get a proper lower resolution fullscreen image on the 4k monitor.

As you move the engine renders the whole map again, including all the names on the screen.
If you go to options, and then advanced, you will see the setting xx scrolls before text hides.
1 is fast 50 is slow, as it renders upto 50 hexes off screen already with names.
As you can imagine, 50 hexes along all edges on a 4K screen is alot heavier then on a 1080p screen.
Now factor in the rather low core speed, and you get the results you have atm.
Try to set it to 1 as a test.

As you drag the map with the mouse, it will move with 2 hex at a time(just test it with a small movement).
That's why it feels sluggish, it's actually skipping a hex each time and not related to the rendering at all.
I think this is done to prevent rendering the map again on each hex move and actually making it lag.
But Hubert may correct me if that's not the reason. I can't recall the full explanation tbh.

makes more sense to me, thanks

i'm sure Konflict would like to know why some games played better and others didn't on his rig, and yours makes more sense than my efforts[;)]

Hey n0kn0k, thanks for the reply.

I think you are correct and the CPU's are doing all the work. I wish we could run this in windowed mode where I can scale the resolution down. I seem to remember a command I used on some other game that you enter in the .exe properties, I might be mistaken on that.

I will try running it in a VM that has lower resolution and see how it goes. Sadly if I lower my main rigs resolution it will reset all my desktop icons every time.

I just tried setting xx scrolls to 1 like you suggested, it works like a charm !
So much better now !
Thank you for that tip !

4K display is the real issue it seems, I even had this lag on my other rig with a 5960x for a processor. It was not as bad but still noticeable.

Well that did the trick and I can now play SC3 without all this lag !

Thanks again !!

Good to hear. Have fun.