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ORIGINAL: Hailstone

C'mon man, if you like throwing dice so much go to Vegas and play craps[:)]

Great!! [:D]

I [almost] fully agree with you. In my younger days, I played a lot of SL and then ASL with my fellow group of maniacs: I always hated playing against (or even together with) those players who, before taking any action, devised a plan in their mind so complex it would have been well suited for an Army Group, much less for a lone infantry company. I admit they never wasted a single firepower or movement point, but it was as boring as watching the paint dry.

The [almost] above is there because I would like to have some more information in some fields, especially AT fire effectiveness. I think most AFV/gun crews had at least a vague idea of the capabilities of their own weapons. I once managed to kill a Panther with a front hit from a Russian 76mm AT gun and I am still wondering if I had been lucky and scored a critical hit or if it was a "normal" hit. How should then place a 76mm gun the next time I play a scenario with Panthers? Should I rely on their capability to pierce any aspect of the Panther or should I set them up so as to maximise their opportunity to take flank shots?
Another example which comes to my mind are LATWs: by way of example, do I have some chance to kill a PzIV with a US Baz43? Who knows?? I suppose that - except perhaps the very first times it was used - the troops in the field have at least some idea of its effectiveness.

I understand that most of us have at least some knowledge of WW2 weapons and AFV and none of us will ever duel at long range with a Tiger, but some extra info would be welcome.

I want to clarify that I am not part of the band of maniacs of up!

Rico, I'm seriously considering an honorary membership for you [:D]

I thought we were the ones achieving the Honorable Membership from Rico! Has the tide turned? Insignificant people want to know.[X(]

There are no insignificant people. The sun must shine for everyone.
All those who think the contrary are my natural enemies.[:D]

Are you trying to tell us you come from a tidally locked planet? [:D]

ORIGINAL: UP844

Rico, I'm seriously considering an honorary membership for you [:D]

Three Cheers for King Rico!![&o][&o][&o]

it's nice guys[&o] but rather disappointed[:D], I'm not used to all this on the hostile planet where I live.

ORIGINAL: Hailstone

C'mon man, if you like throwing dice so much go to Vegas and play craps but I got to tell you TotH saved ASL. Think about it, ASL went under as the rules expanded because it was turning into a "spreadsheet". I never played ASL because I couldn't find anybody geeky enough to play against. I was more successful with Squad Leader and I played about 25 games. The thing is that not knowing all the details that go into the calculation of a dice roll forces you to play more by your gut instincts rather than a calculation. I think that is why I had more opponents for Squad Leader with less things to mathematically consider. Give TotH a chance with the intro scenarios and maybe you'd be surprised. [:)]

I think ASL is alive and well as evidenced by all the expensive products MMP and the third party vendors put out and all the players signing up for preorders for these products. They also have many national and international tournaments.

asl is alive but what is the average age of the players?[:(]
Anyway we do not care because TOTH is not ASL:[:-]
TOTH is TOTH![&o][8D]