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ORIGINAL: Dinglir

ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain
I don't think it was a mistake. Your PZ's would have been sitting there starving for fuel where I set up the Soviets give or take a few hexes. You will be pretty much where everyone else has been on turn 10. I can say though that this is the first game I actually evacuated some industry from Leningrad ;-} That Sir I salute you [&o]

My thinking is that those Panzers might have made a difference in the attacks in the north, rather than just sitting idle in the center.

ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain
One slipup on my part and you are off to the races. I believe I counted 18ish+ mech type units there, just can't find my paper with all the names of your units at the moment of your Divisions. Good job so far

ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain
Oh yeah, you have that correct, it did make a difference. I have never pondered so many possible moves of forces in the North before. I have done it many times for Moscow but never for Leningrad since all the opponents before would just slide to the East towards Moscow. You have me totally worried with the concentration of PZ's and Moto there. One slipup on my part and you are off to the races. I believe I counted 18ish+ mech type units there, just can't find my paper with all the names of your units at the moment of your Divisions. Good job so far

ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS

ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain
One slipup on my part and you are off to the races. I believe I counted 18ish+ mech type units there, just can't find my paper with all the names of your units at the moment of your Divisions. Good job so far

Paper? Dude, that's why Bill Gates and Co. came up with Excel.

ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS

I'm still waiting to see some poor Soviet player get saddled with Marshal "Jail or Medal" Grigory Kulik at STAVKA.

ORIGINAL: Telemecus

Dinglir - Well done for talking through a head on mass unit clash. They are not the easiest thing to describe in an AAR, but it is part of the variety of types of engagement you need to read about as a player.

This goes very well alongside the "Defence of the Soviet Union begins one hex west of Pskow" by HardLuckYetAgain.

ORIGINAL: Telemecus

Dinglir - Well done for talking through a head on mass unit clash.

ORIGINAL: Telemecus
Given the Soviet investment in making a hard defence at Pskow I was almost expecting a continued serious 1 or 2 hex a turn slogging match. But that was a serious indentation into the Pskow defences. Is this sort of Axis inroads what you expect at this point or was it exceptional?

ORIGINAL: Dinglir

ORIGINAL: Telemecus
Given the Soviet investment in making a hard defence at Pskow I was almost expecting a continued serious 1 or 2 hex a turn slogging match. But that was a serious indentation into the Pskow defences. Is this sort of Axis inroads what you expect at this point or was it exceptional?

At this point I expected a full withdrawal towards Leningrad of the Soviet defenders and a rapid move north towards the Luga river.

This is incidentally also the turn where in hindsight I really wanted those Panzers from the center helping out in the attack north....

ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

ORIGINAL: Dinglir

ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain
I'm fretting over where to place one unit and it is driving me nuts

I would suggest Baku....

Hmmmmm, Baku. Too far for this unit. So, morale is in the "pits", units are surrendering in "droves", Rail-lines are "stressed to the max", airforce is "decimated", I think I will "ATTACK".

ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

ORIGINAL: Dinglir

ORIGINAL: Telemecus
Given the Soviet investment in making a hard defence at Pskow I was almost expecting a continued serious 1 or 2 hex a turn slogging match. But that was a serious indentation into the Pskow defences. Is this sort of Axis inroads what you expect at this point or was it exceptional?

At this point I expected a full withdrawal towards Leningrad of the Soviet defenders and a rapid move north towards the Luga river.

This is incidentally also the turn where in hindsight I really wanted those Panzers from the center helping out in the attack north....

You had panzers in the center? I don't see any in your photo nor from my recon during the game.

ORIGINAL: Dinglir

ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

ORIGINAL: Dinglir




At this point I expected a full withdrawal towards Leningrad of the Soviet defenders and a rapid move north towards the Luga river.

This is incidentally also the turn where in hindsight I really wanted those Panzers from the center helping out in the attack north....

You had panzers in the center? I don't see any in your photo nor from my recon during the game.

You are right. I had already moved the Panzers north on turn six.

I will change my remark to "Imagine what my attacks could have done, if those Panzers from the center had moved north earlier, instead of just idling by west of Vitebsk".