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RE: Sheep are Reborn - Bill Brown(A) vs lowpe(J)

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:15 pm
by BillBrown
Here is a question for all of you Japanese players. It is mid December 1943 now, how many CVs can be accelerated to be out by now?
I have read the section in the manual about 4 times and my brain hurts.

I might have the answer, but it does seem strange. According to the in game ship sunk panel, Jocke sank the
CV Ikoma on Nov 14, 1943 with a Mk 14 torp. I do not know if that is true, but it would mean that Jeff has
advanced all of his CVs and all are on the map. [&:] It seems to be a lot of advancing to get a CV more than 18months early.

RE: Sheep are Reborn - Bill Brown(A) vs lowpe(J)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:57 am
by pws1225
By the end of '43, Japan can have all of their fleet carriers if the player is willing to spend the HI points. It sounds like Lowpe willing.

RE: Sheep are Reborn - Bill Brown(A) vs lowpe(J)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:30 am
by ny59giants
I halt the building of subs to allow the acceleration of CVs and other large warships. A CV cost 90 points to build, but 270 point to accelerate. A subs cost about 33 points. So, by mid-44 nothing large than a CL should be joining the IJN.

How many subs have you lost?
How to you plan to deploy them?

RE: Sheep are Reborn - Bill Brown(A) vs lowpe(J)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:59 am
by BillBrown
I count 45 of my subs lost, of all nationalities.
I think I will be trying to flood the Banda Sea and North of it. That will be the direction I will be taking to victory, so maybe I can find
something big there. Jocke seemed to think that KB might be in the Sorong area. At this time, I have no real idea where it might be.
There are a number of deep water choke points available around Ceram, and I think that could be the path that any reaction forces might take.
Other than that, most likely I will try to interdict any TFs moving into Truk.

RE: Sheep are Reborn - Bill Brown(A) vs lowpe(J)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:00 am
by BillBrown
ORIGINAL: pws1225

By the end of '43, Japan can have all of their fleet carriers if the player is willing to spend the HI points. It sounds like Lowpe willing.

That is very, very bad news.

RE: Sheep are Reborn - Bill Brown(A) vs lowpe(J)

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:31 pm
by Bif1961
The Tax Police BN must be prepping for the post war immigration to San Fran.

RE: Sheep are Reborn - Bill Brown(A) vs lowpe(J)

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:54 pm
by BillBrown
I had a nice long reply done and the board ate it, and it was one the few times I did NOT copy what I wrote before hitting OK.

December 10, 1943

No disaster occurred but I got two rude awakenings.

1. The hex I bombed in Burma has a unit called 25th Air Defense AA Regiment, and it seems to have some large AA guns. I will have to rethink things next turn. I am not getting B-29 replacements yet, so I can not really afford to lose any. I was hoping to gain experience at the same time as I pummeled the units in that hex.

2. The house rules I inherited are:
No strategic bombing prior to July 1st 1943.
No strategic bombing in China for the duration of the war.
No 4Es on naval below 10k
PPs for moving restricted units beyond national borders.
Max altitude based on year.
Dec 1941- May 1942: 20,000
June 1942-Dec 1942: 25,000
1943: 30,000
1944--45: 35,000

Having my P-47 fighters restricted to 30,000 feet keeps them from being used at the only altitude that they have a better maneuverability then their opponents. It means I can not use P-47s for sweep missions until next month. I lost 6 A2A and 5 write offs from one unit doing a sweep from Raboul to Manus.

The picture is of the South Eastern Pacific. As you can see, Jeff still controls Palmyra, Canton Island, and Baker. I will want to retake those to prevent them being used as bases for Naval Attack and/or Naval Search.
Not shown is Johnson Island which will also be taken.


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RE: Sheep are Reborn - Bill Brown(A) vs lowpe(J)

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:36 am
by obvert
ORIGINAL: BillBrown


2. The house rules I inherited are:
No strategic bombing prior to July 1st 1943.
No strategic bombing in China for the duration of the war.
No 4Es on naval below 10k
PPs for moving restricted units beyond national borders.
Max altitude based on year.
Dec 1941- May 1942: 20,000
June 1942-Dec 1942: 25,000
1943: 30,000
1944--45: 35,000

Having my P-47 fighters restricted to 30,000 feet keeps them from being used at the only altitude that they have a better maneuverability then their opponents. It means I can not use P-47s for sweep missions until next month. I lost 6 A2A and 5 write offs from one unit doing a sweep from Raboul to Manus.

This is not quite correct. That HR is not limiting. You used one group against a numerous CAP.

Against Lowpe, the altitude of P-47s is going to be a moot point. He will use low CAP to combat strato sweeps and your P-47s will suffer. I am playing him as Allies and he has Symon's air fixes in my game too, and I've already started planning and testing, because I know what this means. I use it myself.

There are ways to combat it, but I'm not going to go into them here. The main point is this will be a tough game as he spends a lot of time working on the air war, and he will get results there no matter what you do. So start thinking now of ways you can proceed without the usual lock and load P-47 power sweeps. [;)]


RE: Sheep are Reborn - Bill Brown(A) vs lowpe(J)

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:05 pm
by Lokasenna
I notice that, aside from the naval attack limitation (which I find silly/unnecessary because that's such a misuse of the planes), there are no limits on the use of 4E's...

RE: Sheep are Reborn - Bill Brown(A) vs lowpe(J)

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:26 pm
by BillBrown
I have informed Jeff that I will not be able to take over this game. I really under appreciated how much time it would take.
I still work full time and 4 games was too much. It is my fault, I should not have offered, but sometimes we all do stupid things.
I was not happy with the house rules, but in less than a month they would have been mostly obsolete anyway. I just do not have
the time it would take to do this game justice. I will stick with my three existing games( two are quite slow ) and try and not
overload my self again.

RE: Sheep are Reborn - Bill Brown(A) vs lowpe(J)

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:17 pm
by Bif1961
Sorry it didn't work out and good luck in your existing games.

RE: Sheep are Reborn - Bill Brown(A) vs lowpe(J)

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:52 am
by Barb
Sorry to hear this fine "Sheep" saga is about to end. I did enjoyed the original struggle of the allies to kick Japanese out CONUS.
However it is probably better to keep on the existing commitments before latching a new one.

RE: Sheep are Reborn - Bill Brown(A) vs lowpe(J)

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:37 am
by obvert
ORIGINAL: BillBrown

I have informed Jeff that I will not be able to take over this game. I really under appreciated how much time it would take.
I still work full time and 4 games was too much. It is my fault, I should not have offered, but sometimes we all do stupid things.
I was not happy with the house rules, but in less than a month they would have been mostly obsolete anyway. I just do not have
the time it would take to do this game justice. I will stick with my three existing games( two are quite slow ) and try and not
overload my self again.

Four games?!?! [X(][:-]

Are you a Mr Kane impersonator? [:D]

Yeah, I'd say three is plenty. I can barely manage two, one on each side, and if I have more than one on a single side I get very confused.

Hope the other games keep you happy and maybe this will come roaring back to life another day.

RE: Sheep are Reborn - Bill Brown(A) vs lowpe(J)

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:20 am
by Encircled
Two kids, working, and all the other stuff that goes one means I can only do one!

Fair play for managing four!