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Hmm this is weird. I'm playing the Korea scenario against PO and I was trying to bomb few of the bridges behind his lines to cut the supply lines for the NK but all attempts failed.
Now I only attacked two bridges one of them was attacked by two different units. I did not pay that much attention to it at the time, I figured I was unlucky but this thread made me think.
Maybe there is something wrong with the logic behind? The bridge that I attacked twice hade a chance of success at 58% and 78%. I'll try to bomb the crap of that bridge again with all available units just to see if it can be done.

toawlog.txt would be quite helpful. I tried, as good as I could, to shed some light of the famous Ouch! and Furball! questions in Tutorial '44.

Klink, Oberst

OK, good news is that bridges are destroyable. I even destroyed one at 14% chance!

I understand all of the factors that may go into calculating whether a bridge gets destroyed. My concern is that the computer is telling me I have a 100% chance of destroying the bridge. Yet 4 tries failed to bring it down. I did destroy the other bridges that had <75% chance.

ORIGINAL: mikeCK

I understand all of the factors that may go into calculating whether a bridge gets destroyed. My concern is that the computer is telling me I have a 100% chance of destroying the bridge. Yet 4 tries failed to bring it down. I did destroy the other bridges that had <75% chance.

Well I guess the lesson here is that you can't rely too much on that number because, Clausewitz' friction and all that [:)]

ORIGINAL: mikeCK

I understand all of the factors that may go into calculating whether a bridge gets destroyed. My concern is that the computer is telling me I have a 100% chance of destroying the bridge. Yet 4 tries failed to bring it down. I did destroy the other bridges that had <75% chance.

The estimate assumes the planes will actually reach the target. Yet, in your example, there was strong enemy interception of them - with many shot down.

In the Full Report graphic:

What does [FC, R0] mean after each strike report?

What does [R0, Blue, LC, FC] mean?

ORIGINAL: Sleazey

In the Full Report graphic:

What does [FC, R0] mean after each strike report?

What does [R0, Blue, LC, FC] mean?

There's a button in the combat chart which explain those abbreviations. Check the manual section 16.22 for more details.

ORIGINAL: Sleazey

In the Full Report graphic:

What does [FC, R0] mean after each strike report?

What does [R0, Blue, LC, FC] mean?

Those are codes used to create the Combat Chart.

On individual unit lines, FC is the cooperation level (Full, Limited, and None). R0 is the Unit timestamp.

The line at the top, R0 is the turn timestamp. Blue is the attacking side's color. Then there is the overall attacker and defender cooperation.

ORIGINAL: Curtis Lemay

ORIGINAL: mikeCK

I understand all of the factors that may go into calculating whether a bridge gets destroyed. My concern is that the computer is telling me I have a 100% chance of destroying the bridge. Yet 4 tries failed to bring it down. I did destroy the other bridges that had <75% chance.

The estimate assumes the planes will actually reach the target. Yet, in your example, there was strong enemy interception of them - with many shot down.

Ok, assuming that is what happened ( and I have no reason to think that is NOT what happened), How do I overcome that? Do I set more planes for “air superiority.” I can’t order the planes to fly a certain route so I’m not sure what to do

Yes if you set air units for "air superiority", and if in range and passing a cooperative check, they would protect your bombers.

This is an interesting topic. The problem i see is that all this factors are not clearly explained in that '100%' chance which is misleading

ORIGINAL: gerardo

This is an interesting topic. The problem i see is that all this factors are not clearly explained in that '100%' chance wich is misleading

Well, it's the percentage (estimate really) of how my planes of the given unit (keeping the unit's readiness level in mind as well...) are going to reach the target. If you have a look at the log files and some examples in Tutorial '44, you'll get a fair idea of it. Sturmovik/Stukas are more likely to hit the bridges; the latter have enhanced targeting etc.

Klink, Oberst

100% chance of destroying the bridge is quite different from the the percentage of how my planes ' are going to reach the target'.

ORIGINAL: gerardo

100% chance of destroying the bridge is quite different from the the percentage of how my planes ' are going to reach the target'.

The estimate assumes the planes will actually reach the target. Yet, in your example, there was strong enemy interception of them - with many shot down.

Just referring to Bob's post earlier - Quote: 'The estimate assumes the planes will actually reach the target. Yet, in your example, there was strong enemy interception of them - with many shot down.'.

Again, check it out and toy around with the various units in Tutorial '44 at your hearts delight.

Klink, Oberst