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I am surprised that they don't sell these games for $ 9.99 or less. Only taking up server space for a 200-500 MB download. Especially, old, old games. Just a thought.

ORIGINAL: demyansk

I am surprised that they don't sell these games for $ 9.99 or less. Only taking up server space for a 200-500 MB download. Especially, old, old games. Just a thought.

I agree. They fact they are still asking nearly $40 for old games like this is ridiculous.

I would buy a few for under $10 bucks. Play them a few times and then done with them. That's why Steam cuts the prices to increase traffic and players purchase other items in the future. Amazon is the Master at this. They suck your money big time. I even wish a few Matrix games would go to single digits.

Im convinced HPS is like one of those old Star Trek episodes where the people are all dead and the computer has chugged on for ages alone.

ORIGINAL: demyansk
I would buy a few for under $10 bucks. Play them a few times and then done with them. That's why Steam cuts the prices to increase traffic and players purchase other items in the future.

Doesn't steam gain more than money in the deal? Don't they gain access to your computer and also make their software necessary to play all these "cheap" games?

Asking $60 for a game that has been "in the works" since 2013 is darn right wrong. But that didn´t seem to bother them to much either.

I recently asked "support" what was the correct way of installing both TSS games, and the reply was "Scott hasent added anything new since last update and everything you need is in the download section"!

This way of avoiding support, with out saying that the reply had nothing to do with what I asked, is been way to common in the past, so for me It´s not even worth $10.

ORIGINAL: E

Doesn't steam gain more than money in the deal? Don't they gain access to your computer

Is that from Steam's end user license agreement or from Reddit?

and also make their software necessary to play all these "cheap" games?

I have played some of the games WITHOUT Steam software. In other words, you can copy the games to another computer without Steam software and play on it if you want. Might not work for all the games.

ORIGINAL: Kuokkanen

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Doesn't steam gain more than money in the deal? Don't they gain access to your computer

Is that from Steam's end user license agreement or from Reddit?

No, the questions are from me (based solely on conversations in these forums). (as an aside" What IS this reddit? Is it a farcebook alternate? or an offshoot? or just a giant forum? I would search for it myself, but I'm afraid of lemmings.)

ORIGINAL: Kuokkanen

and also make their software necessary to play all these "cheap" games?

I have played some of the games WITHOUT Steam software. In other words, you can copy the games to another computer without Steam software and play on it if you want. Might not work for all the games.

By your example, they did gain access to at least one computer and you did need their software to get the game? (Which on paper, sounds very much like a prerequisite for playing the game! *grin* Not to mention the red flag usage of the phrase "played some of the games.")

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By your example, they did gain access to at least one computer and you did need their software to get the game? (Which on paper, sounds very much like a prerequisite for playing the game! *grin* Not to mention the red flag usage of the phrase "played some of the games.")

Steam software is required to purchase and download the games from Steam Internet store. Software is required to play some of the games bought from Steam Internet store, at least those that make use of HTC Vive. If I recall correctly, Steam asks permission to gather information about my computer hardware, and I can refuse it. I can turn Steam software off and play great majority of the games without it. Personally I don't care do I buy & download the games with a WWW browser, FTP client, Steam, or GOG Galaxy. But at least Steam automatically updates the games as soon as official updates come available, and that is convenient. More convenient than looking for newest patches from all over the Matrix site under Products, Members Area (different patch versions under the 2), and where ever else.

Reddit is a WWW forum like this one. Personally I don't like it because there is lots of misinformation that readers quote on other forums. Then again, does it matter where the misinformation comes from?

I don't play 75% of my Steam games and most likely will not play them. Just like watching a movie more than twice.

ORIGINAL: Kuokkanen

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Doesn't steam gain more than money in the deal? Don't they gain access to your computer

Is that from Steam's end user license agreement or from Reddit?

and also make their software necessary to play all these "cheap" games?

I have played some of the games WITHOUT Steam software. In other words, you can copy the games to another computer without Steam software and play on it if you want. Might not work for all the games.

If a game purchased from Steam does not have Steam's DRM, it will play by activating the game's executable file. Paradox games did, the last time I checked.

I have 2 games on Steam - Arma 3 and Portal 2.

You need Steam to buy the games, download the games and download patches. You do not need Steam to actually play the games.

ORIGINAL: Kuokkanen
Steam software is required to purchase and download the games from Steam Internet store.

Bummer (intrusive bummer).

ORIGINAL: Kuokkanen
Software is required to play some of the games bought from Steam Internet store, at least those that make use of HTC Vive.

(No idea what an "HTC Vive" is. Must be a steam thingmie?)

ORIGINAL: Kuokkanen
If I recall correctly, Steam asks permission to gather information about my computer hardware, and I can refuse it.

I don't think I could trust a company that makes customers install their software in order to purchase software by third parties, to play straight with me.

ORIGINAL: Kuokkanen
But at least Steam automatically updates the games as soon as official updates come available, and that is convenient.

History has proven that automatic updates can break an OS's. (Personally, I only update if I know of bugs or for wanted improvements... ignorance is bliss in the patch department for me!)

ORIGINAL: Kuokkanen
More convenient than looking for newest patches from all over the Matrix site under Products, Members Area (different patch versions under the 2), and where ever else.

Undoubtedly (if you trust auto-updating *grin*).

ORIGINAL: Kuokkanen
Reddit is a WWW forum like this one. Personally I don't like it because there is lots of misinformation that readers quote on other forums.

What is their "schtick?" Here it is the games. At Farcebook it's something unfathomable to non-lemmings. At TWITter is is the twits. *grin*

Then again, does it matter where the misinformation comes from?[/quote]
Oh! Oh! Oh! That could be CRITICAL... if I need misinformation, it has to be lemon-flavored misinformation! If you get the wrong misinformation, it could ruin the ENTIRE recipe for disaster! That's why you MUST get the right misinformation. .. or chance electing a [insert political party of your opponent's choice here] *grin*

ORIGINAL: demyansk
I don't play 75% of my Steam games and most likely will not play them. Just like watching a movie more than twice.

I still occasionally play games I bought in the 80s! Your method does not compute! "Non sequitor. Error! ERROR! ANALYZE!" *51-Years-0f-Nomad-grin*

Not all Steam games will run off the exe.

Now I'm embarrassed to admit this, but I have about 560 Steam games (some junk of course) but they all run perfectly. This is what I care about most. Now UbiSoft and the new GoG Galaxy DRM is a complete horror. GoG is having a sale now, but Galaxy is a mess, at least on my computer. Weren't they the "no DRM" people?

Okay, GoG says Galaxy is optional. It didn't appear that way a couple months ago, but don't want to post the wrong information. God forbid [;)]

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(No idea what an "HTC Vive" is. Must be a steam thingmie?)

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ORIGINAL: Kuokkanen

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(No idea what an "HTC Vive" is. Must be a steam thingmie?)

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So it's a youtube thingmie? (I can't watch youtubes direct, only some embeds)

ORIGINAL: Rosseau

Not all Steam games will run off the exe.

Now I'm embarrassed to admit this, but I have about 560 Steam games (some junk of course) but they all run perfectly. This is what I care about most. Now UbiSoft and the new GoG Galaxy DRM is a complete horror. GoG is having a sale now, but Galaxy is a mess, at least on my computer. Weren't they the "no DRM" people?

Okay, GoG says Galaxy is optional. It didn't appear that way a couple months ago, but don't want to post the wrong information. God forbid [;)]

Rosseau you got the whole GOG thing wrong...

First, DRM is "Digital Rights Management", which GOG does not use. GOG Galaxy is a platform for GOG so it can update your GOG game, it´s also a community platform, but it does not use any DRM system. Yes you can download your games from GOG manually, or via Galaxy. If you do it manually you then have to patch/update manually too. It´s been like that since Galaxy came out. In a nutshell, you have two choices to download, but neither use DRM.

On the other hand, yes you can launch Steam games from there original .exe without the use of Steam, but Iam not to sure as to how long (days) you can play those games offline without Steam having to check your DRM online. [8|]

Maybe some folks would have rather used the "Starforce" method again. Unless your a expert in netcode and/or work for the CIA, I don´t see all this issue with playing a game. If someone is so concerned with his/her security, then buy another PC for gaming, surfing or what have you on the net.

You have a credit card, a bank account and a mobil phone. That´s enough for them to know what ever they need from you!

PC Technology is here to stay, and for a very long time! It´s one of the biggest buisness of this era so live with it, or Alaska or bust! [:D]

steam was limited to 2 weeks in offline mode, but that was back in 2013, and once updated and altered it now works for as long as there isn't a client code update needed in the client, which does need to go online and be patched, so while the games can be played with no DRM and offline for any length of time, once a update for steam client is needed, it must go online to install it, or you may get error's on a reboot, so some have said with no net use for 6 months or so this year and last, it still worked, as not everywhere you go in the world still has or can get good or any access