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RE: Invasion USA!! Dontra85 (J) vs NY59Giants (A)

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 1:12 am
by Cap Mandrake
Yes, you have to admit the Portland idea is pretty clever. Poorly defended. Sail right up the river......Port-land-ia

By ra way...I think you can get to Bellingham without going past the Oak Harbor guns.

RE: Invasion USA!! Dontra85 (J) vs NY59Giants (A)

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 1:18 am
by Cap Mandrake
Also under no circumstances should the LYB's be allowed to capture Piroshky's Bakery in Seattle. If they get the recipe to the smoked salmon pastry the war is over.

RE: Invasion USA!! Dontra85 (J) vs NY59Giants (A)

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 7:22 am
by ny59giants
42 Jan 18: The Battle for Oregon is mainly over...


Ground combat at Portland (213,56)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 10240 troops, 113 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 876

Defending force 934 troops, 9 guns, 52 vehicles, Assault Value = 14

Japanese adjusted assault: 157

Allied adjusted defense: 3

Japanese assault odds: 52 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Portland !!!


Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
159 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 6 (6 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
80 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 54 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 19 (19 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 1
Units destroyed 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
53rd Division
4th Division

44th Field AA Battalion
1st Fleet
11th Air Defense AA Regiment
21st Air Defense AA Regiment
34th JNAF AF Unit

Defending units:
144th Infantry Rgt /1
117th USAAF Base Force

Looks like he is here for a while with base now having 7 LCUs = 35920 trps, 275 guns, 27 AFVs
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Ground combat at Astoria (211,55)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 3536 troops, 26 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 122

Defending force 148 troops, 17 guns, 20 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 107

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 107 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Astoria !!!


Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 13 (13 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 24 (24 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
24th Infantry Regiment

Defending units:
Columbia R Defenses


Notes: When I looks at CVE reinforcements I'm down to 21 CVE for rest of game.
Looks like I lost over 70 CVEs plus other shipping.
OUCH!! [X(] [:(] [X(]

KB is 3 due west of Portland 113F, 163B, 40 Aux

RE: Invasion USA!! Dontra85 (J) vs NY59Giants (A)

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 8:30 am
by Bearcat2
Scen 1 Portland

46 CVE
7 AM
9 APA
5 AK
3 AKA
28 LST
46 PC
76 TK
216 xAK

RE: Invasion USA!! Dontra85 (J) vs NY59Giants (A)

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 9:01 am
by Bo Rearguard
ORIGINAL: Bearcat2

Scen 1 Portland

46 CVE
7 AM
9 APA
5 AK
3 AKA
28 LST
46 PC
76 TK
216 xAK

Ouch. The Portland Gambit. We have been warned. [X(]

RE: Invasion USA!! Dontra85 (J) vs NY59Giants (A)

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 9:03 am
by Lovejoy
ORIGINAL: Bearcat2

Scen 1 Portland

46 CVE
7 AM
9 APA
5 AK
3 AKA
28 LST
46 PC
76 TK
216 xAK

Yikes! losing 76 tankers on top of 46 CVEs is gonna hurt!

RE: Invasion USA!! Dontra85 (J) vs NY59Giants (A)

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:07 am
by Cap Mandrake
Well, you knew the airfield defenders at Portland were going to fold. If you ask me the amphibious assault ships are worse than the TK's. Also, I don't think the CVE air complements show up without the CVE's..so that has to be at least 1000 AC, more likely 1400 or so (46 CVE from Portland in DBB...ight be more in stock). Ouch.

FWIW you do have good terrain for the defense of Tacoma and Seattle. Wooded rough at Tacoma and then you have the Cascades East of Seattle. You can probably hold the rail link to Vancouver. Get some infantry of some sort to Oak Harbor to help keep IJN BB's out of Puget Sound...and mine the BeJesus out of it. Eastern Washington doesn't matter after the initial surge of reinforcements from Salt Lake. Everything can eventually reach Seattle via Canada..including Eastern US.

Also, don't forget, the damage to the Japan war cause has been done in terms of emergency reinforcements so they might land at Santa Ana or Cap Pendleton and try to take San Diego to take out all the B-24's. If you lose all your B-17, B-29 and B-24 on map production you are well and mightily screwed.



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RE: Invasion USA!! Dontra85 (J) vs NY59Giants (A)

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:22 am
by Cap Mandrake
Also this. If he brought paras and transports...wings on, on a CVL for instance...or an AKL (if Japan has any)...he could take Ogden or Boise and Butte and stop your strategic movement toward Seattle.[:)]

RE: Invasion USA!! Dontra85 (J) vs NY59Giants (A)

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:23 am
by Cap Mandrake
There is also this. You could be the first person in AE to use a nuke on an American city. [:)]

RE: Invasion USA!! Dontra85 (J) vs NY59Giants (A)

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:24 am
by Mike McCreery
This is why I freaked out in my game against NJP and his apparent move toward Hawaii and the west coast and moved the Canadian and British divisions to America.


RE: Invasion USA!! Dontra85 (J) vs NY59Giants (A)

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:26 am
by Cap Mandrake
If Kamloops on the Calgary-Vancouver railway is in stock it is also vulnerable to para assault. I'm sure everything will be fine.

RE: Invasion USA!! Dontra85 (J) vs NY59Giants (A)

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:31 am
by MakeeLearn
Japanese forces CAPTURE Portland !!!


Looks like there may be some truth in those "Japanese radio transmissions detected at Portland" reports.


RE: Invasion USA!! Dontra85 (J) vs NY59Giants (A)

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:41 am
by Cap Mandrake
*****McClintok farm 120 miles East of Portland*****

KBOO Agriculture Report:...this-ah probabry good year prant soybeans...

Mrs. McClintock: CLAUDE! The radio sounds funny again!

RE: Invasion USA!! Dontra85 (J) vs NY59Giants (A)

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:43 am
by Canoerebel
Michael will remember this, but years ago there was a lengthy discussion of various Japanese strategies for a West Coast offensive. The strategic bombing implications were discussed at length - the points that could be harvested in that way, without necessarily triggering the West Coast emergency reinforcements. I think that discussion took place in my AAR against Panzerjagger Hortlund ("War and Peas") about six years ago. Hortlund invaded Canada and engaged in strategic bombing, both by land and KB at sea off California.

As I recall, Bullwinkle and Alfred were two primary contributors to that thread. It might be worth re-reading.

RE: Invasion USA!! Dontra85 (J) vs NY59Giants (A)

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:49 am
by Cap Mandrake
Yes, the question of autovictory with strategic bombing as I recall. Won't there be P-38's all over the place pretty soon now given the accelerated reinforcements?

RE: Invasion USA!! Dontra85 (J) vs NY59Giants (A)

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 1:02 pm
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Also this. If he brought paras and transports...wings on, on a CVL for instance...or an AKL (if Japan has any)...he could take Ogden or Boise and Butte and stop your strategic movement toward Seattle.[:)]
Have you been reading the manual or something?

RE: Invasion USA!! Dontra85 (J) vs NY59Giants (A)

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 1:03 pm
by witpqs
Hey, what's the game date anyway?

RE: Invasion USA!! Dontra85 (J) vs NY59Giants (A)

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 3:51 pm
by PaxMondo
ORIGINAL: Wargmr

This is why I freaked out in my game against NJP and his apparent move toward Hawaii and the west coast and moved the Canadian and British divisions to America.

+1

natural reaction that he counted on, but how can you not respect the intent?

RE: Invasion USA!! Dontra85 (J) vs NY59Giants (A)

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 4:02 pm
by Cap Mandrake
Maybe this is a bluff. [:D]

RE: Invasion USA!! Dontra85 (J) vs NY59Giants (A)

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 4:30 pm
by MakeeLearn
TAKE TO THE HILLS! WOLVERINES!!!

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