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Thanks - yes RAW8 disallows it - in MWIF the above is listed as a “clarification” I recall which i believe is defined in RAC as a departure from RAW as they existed at the time...

Yeah ... so... with the allies having control of Rabaul and Singapore from the start, Japan is having a really rough time- either because of this or I’m
Playing the US fleet better. The allies have used Singapore more as well to knock out Japanese access to oil. In any event, Japan is going down the tubes fast unlike previous games.

Also : a funny thing happened in Singapore- suddenly mid turn the sizeable US fleet went out of supply whereas the CW fleet was unaffected. I thought huhh, they can share supply so what gives. Then it dawned on me (I say that allot)- by coincidence at that moment the supply link to the US was broken a half the way around the world. And the Allies were sloppy about keeping a supply link around the Cape and/ or around the south of Australia as a backup to losing supply in the Mediterranean or the South China Sea. Of course the CW can use Australia or India to supply CW units but the US has to get back to America...

ORIGINAL: jboldt007
Also : a funny thing happened in Singapore- suddenly mid turn the sizeable US fleet went out of supply whereas the CW fleet was unaffected. I thought huhh, they can share supply so what gives. Then it dawned on me (I say that allot)- by coincidence at that moment the supply link to the US was broken a half the way around the world. And the Allies were sloppy about keeping a supply link around the Cape and/ or around the south of Australia as a backup to losing supply in the Mediterranean or the South China Sea. Of course the CW can use Australia or India to supply CW units but the US has to get back to America...

No, still very odd. What you say is true for RAW8 but not RAW7 and MWiF is RAW7 (with an exception in Vichyfication, but not in supply).

ORIGINAL: paulderynck

ORIGINAL: jboldt007
Also : a funny thing happened in Singapore- suddenly mid turn the sizeable US fleet went out of supply whereas the CW fleet was unaffected. I thought huhh, they can share supply so what gives. Then it dawned on me (I say that allot)- by coincidence at that moment the supply link to the US was broken a half the way around the world. And the Allies were sloppy about keeping a supply link around the Cape and/ or around the south of Australia as a backup to losing supply in the Mediterranean or the South China Sea. Of course the CW can use Australia or India to supply CW units but the US has to get back to America...

No, still very odd. What you say is true for RAW8 but not RAW7 and MWiF is RAW7 (with an exception in Vichyfication, but not in supply).

The US fleet should be in supply because they cooperate with the Commonwealth. And that means that all CW home country cities are a primary supply source for the US. I think we'll need a gamesave for this one so it can be investigated.

Did it happen mid-turn or end of turn? USA ships in Singappre would have to trace a supply line back to USA controlled oil somewhere to re-organize., but could trace to a city in any of the CW Home Countries to be in supply during a turn.

ORIGINAL: brian brian

Did it happen mid-turn or end of turn? USA ships in Singappre would have to trace a supply line back to USA controlled oil somewhere to re-organize., but could trace to a city in any of the CW Home Countries to be in supply during a turn.

The US and the CW cooperate, so if enough oil is available in India the US should be able to reorganise the fleet using CW oil...

ORIGINAL: Centuur

ORIGINAL: brian brian

Did it happen mid-turn or end of turn? USA ships in Singappre would have to trace a supply line back to USA controlled oil somewhere to re-organize., but could trace to a city in any of the CW Home Countries to be in supply during a turn.

The US and the CW cooperate, so if enough oil is available in India the US should be able to reorganise the fleet using CW oil...

Then that would be one of those RAC deviations in MWiF that I can never keep straight.

Ok weirder than I thought - so happened mid turn. Allies lost supply in eastern Mediterranean due to a successful Italian fleet foray. The allied supply in South China Sea aborted. There was supply in the Indian Ocean and in sea areas to the east, but not in the sea area south of Indonesia ( forgot its name). Supply did not go around the cape - so effectively us fleet was cutoff from America. There was supply to India and Australia otherwise. So the thing was that the us fleet went out of supply in total, but no CW ship. To address this allies moved the queens post haste into the eastern Mediterranean and the supply problem was solved as there was then a path from Singapore back to the US. I think that’s what happened.

ORIGINAL: paulderynck
I think (without looking) the Indian is a black print unit so once ground struck and OoS it should be brushed aside quite easily - but does require a significant commitment of Japanese forces compared with one Div and an SCS.

Ah well as JP ground striking and flipping a unit far out in the south pacific ocean is a difficult job - JP's strength is not exactly tactical factors on their planes.

ORIGINAL: jjdenver

ORIGINAL: paulderynck
I think (without looking) the Indian is a black print unit so once ground struck and OoS it should be brushed aside quite easily - but does require a significant commitment of Japanese forces compared with one Div and an SCS.

Ah well as JP ground striking and flipping a unit far out in the south pacific ocean is a difficult job - JP's strength is not exactly tactical factors on their planes.

You said it.