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RE: "Engaged offensive" bug

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:31 pm
by ultradave
I ran Kobu's posted save game and saw the same behavior. Just had to clarify what it was he was trying to do.

To add to that, if you watch the status of the aircraft it will very briefly flash Unassigned and then revert back to Engaged Offensive. It's just a brief flash but you can see it. Don't know if that's any help in troubleshooting.

RE: "Engaged offensive" bug

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:28 pm
by Kobu
Hi
I noticed too that when the aircraft attack another aircraft without any order or intervention of the player the same behaviour occurs. The aircraft detect an enemy aircraft and goes offensive until the attack end. In that time (lenght of attack) the airplane not respond to any order only RTB. In the attached the plane attack the ship and goes "engaged offensive" and straight on to the ship without possibility of control it anymore (only with RTB order).

Regards

RE: "Engaged offensive" bug

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:54 pm
by doabliptnk
I load your scen file -> click on the F/A-18E -> open the Doctrine, EMCON, WRA window (Ctrl + F9) -> I see "Ignore plotted course when attacking: Yes"

This value should be "No" to get the behavior you want.

RE: "Engaged offensive" bug

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:36 pm
by Kobu
Usually i set "Ignore plotted course when attacking: Yes" for all units.
It is not easier press "U" than go to doctrine window and change all the time this specific doctrine for each unit for each situation????
I believe that we already talked about this.

Regards

RE: "Engaged offensive" bug

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:47 pm
by Dimitris
So we agree there is no bug at the moment? "The game does not work the way I would like it to" is a different thing than "the game is not working as designed". Only the latter is a bug.

RE: "Engaged offensive" bug

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:28 pm
by Kobu
I am almost certain that this work like i say in previous version and it makes more sense like i say. For me is a bug because the "unassign" order dont work like should.

RE: "Engaged offensive" bug

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:41 pm
by Kobu
Hi again

I had the opportunity of test this behavior in a past build (998.11) and it works like i said, if you press U (unassign) when a fighter is in "engaged offensive" (with the "ignore plotted course when attacking" set to YES) the fighter back to his plotted course status or unassign status when there is not a course.

The problem come with the uptdate 998.14 MAJOR FIX: Resolved the long-standing issue of "blind AMRAAM shots". Now the fighter when is updating via datalink a missile it refuse to go out of "engaged offensive" status despite you order unassign. Like other user said you order unassign and barely goes to unassign and goes back to "engaged offensive" again.

I understand that when you fire a datalink missile the game wish to mantain it updated but if you order it unassign this should obey and let you control manually if you keep updating the missile or not.

Now i can ensure that this is a bug and dont work like should.

Regards

RE: "Engaged offensive" bug

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:11 pm
by Zanthra
There is a related issue where setting a group to “Ignore Plotted Course: No” Does not affect any units in that group which may have had it set to yes due to being added to a patrol. Making the doctrine setting for the group unintuitively useless.

RE: "Engaged offensive" bug

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:38 pm
by KnightHawk75
ORIGINAL: Zanthra

There is a related issue where setting a group to “Ignore Plotted Course: No” Does not affect any units in that group which may have had it set to yes due to being added to a patrol. Making the doctrine setting for the group unintuitively useless.

Interesting, this may account for most of my frustrating instances of running to this issue even when 'No' was seemingly set at all levels (side\mission\group).