Matrix Games Forums

Some simply got lost, foundered, or went down and never came back up. In f a few cases nobody to this day knows what became of them, or exactly where they were lost.

The identity of both enemy and Allied subs lost continues to be revised based on new information but there is in the vast majority of cases a correlation between the records of the opposing side's attacks and the time and approximate area where a submarine was last heard from by its own side.

Submarines tend to operate far from friendly forces and are often sunk when already underwater by depth charge/hedgehog/homing torpedo but enemy reports often contain reports of recovered debris from the submarine. The recovery of this debris tends to confirm the fact that an enemy ship was sunk however little if any of this flotsam identifies the sunken sub by name or number. It is usually the combination of records from both sides after the war that settles the exact fate of a particular sub.

IIRC there was a US sub sunk by friendlies immediately prior to the Leyte Gulf battle.

Whilst playing as the allied player, my enthusiastic B17 planes have attacked and 'sunk' several subs in the Dutch East Indies waters, only for them to turn out to be Dutch...

ORIGINAL: xj900uk
Whilst playing as the allied player, my enthusiastic B17 planes have attacked and 'sunk' several subs in the Dutch East Indies waters, only for them to turn out to be Dutch...

I have never seen a friendly fire incident of any nature in this game. Apart from occasional mines

It does happen but it's supposed to be very rare. I've also had Luftwaffe planes shoot themselves down in the Eagle Day game (again only one I recall)
I have had a few carrier landing accidents wounding a pilot and causing damage to a carrier - although the narrative doesn't specifically say it, it's quite easy to work out afterwards when your pilot is in hospital for 3 months and your carrier has 'gained' 6 damage overnight...

My Uncle is still on patrol on one of those subs. [:(]