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RE: Worst modern war film of all time

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:06 am
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Anachro

Well, the worst WW2 film of the last five years is Dunkirk, to be honest.
Strongly disagree. It was a microcosm of the battle and showed many of the elements that drove the losses and the heroism that saved so many. The jumping/overlapping timelines confused me at first but I saw it a second time on TV and it was much more compelling when you knew where each vignette fit into the overall picture.

Trying to portray the entire battle would have left no place/time for showing the human experience of the disaster.

RE: Worst modern war film of all time

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:37 am
by jdsrae
Sorry, Danger Close should be one well worth watching. I did not mean to imply it is a contender for the wooden spoon.
Not produced in Hollywood and extensive involvement of those who were present so it should have realism in spades.


RE: Worst modern war film of all time

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:07 am
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: Anachro

Well, the worst WW2 film of the last five years is Dunkirk, to be honest.
Strongly disagree.
warspite1

+1

RE: Worst modern war film of all time

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:49 am
by Rising-Sun
ORIGINAL: pontiouspilot

The all time worst had to be U-571. Bad acting, bad effects, totally ridiculous plot...none of above even in same league

That movie isn't bad, but they got their facts all wrong. Suppose to be British, not the American during that time of events.

Now I do love that movies: Kelly's Heroes and I don't see anything wrong with it. Dunkirk wasn't bad, but I hated when they switch back in fourth during the events and part of it doesn't make any sense that already gotten dark while showing some shots that was in daylight.

Back to the topic, that movie look interesting, but what is Willis (who is he suppose to be)? Chennault, the flying tigers??

There one movie I gotten from Target few days ago, called In Harm's Way (not John Wayne), pretty good and mostly drama and sad at the end. Surprise that the Chinese manage to make that one.
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Well, my nomination is for a film pitting WWII naval vessels against alien invaders : Battleship

So many bad things in there it would take too long to write them all up so I will state my biggest issue - The USS Missouri is brought into service to fight the aliens and just happens to have ammo in the magazines. It uses its mighty 16" guns to hit the alien ships and hurts them but does not destroy them.

The aliens sink Missouri with their rasp-torpedoes that bore holes through the ship. The hero switches to a slightly more modern DD that still has a 5'' gun and closes with the damaged alien vessel. Do they fire the 5" gun to finish it off? Nooooooo! They get some rifles from the armoury and close in enough to shoot the alien commander on his bridge!

I think Ben Affleck was the protagonist in that one too. The idea must have been to use bad acting to distract from a terrible plot and abysmal realism.

That movie Battleship is pretty good and funny, but when I saw those big 16 inches gun turret turn, lmao that is not realistic. It will take time for those big gun to rotate 180 degree, probably thirty seconds at least.

RE: Worst modern war film of all time

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:21 am
by davidc
ORIGINAL: jdsrae

Sorry, Danger Close should be one well worth watching. I did not mean to imply it is a contender for the wooden spoon.
Not produced in Hollywood and extensive involvement of those who were present so it should have realism in spades.


Realism like Australian infantry using M16s [&:]
Australian infantry of the period used the L1A1 SLR, an Australian version of the Belgian FN FAL.

RE: Worst modern war film of all time

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 6:52 am
by jdsrae
Good eyes, but there are SLRs there too.
Some Aussies used M16s, such as some officers, SNCOs and scouts (the lead two in each section).

RE: Worst modern war film of all time

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:24 am
by Miller
Honourable mentions for a couple of others. Windtalkers, in which good old Nicky C goes on the rampage with the aid of an arcade game style "rage mode" and kills 156 Japs over the course of the film (there's a video on YT). Fury, not bad until the final 30 minute battle scene where a single tank crew kills half an elite* SS division.

*By elite, I mean run straight at the front of the tank with only your rifle to be mown down in your hundreds....

RE: Worst modern war film of all time

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:36 am
by Miller
ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

C'mon Miller, old boy-I think you should watch it so that you can weigh them against one another. C'mon man-do it! [:D]

Not a chance. Even his pretend hair is appalling.

RE: Worst modern war film of all time

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:05 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Well, my nomination is for a film pitting WWII naval vessels against alien invaders : Battleship

So many bad things in there it would take too long to write them all up so I will state my biggest issue - The USS Missouri is brought into service to fight the aliens and just happens to have ammo in the magazines. It uses its mighty 16" guns to hit the alien ships and hurts them but does not destroy them.

The aliens sink Missouri with their rasp-torpedoes that bore holes through the ship. The hero switches to a slightly more modern DD that still has a 5'' gun and closes with the damaged alien vessel. Do they fire the 5" gun to finish it off? Nooooooo! They get some rifles from the armoury and close in enough to shoot the alien commander on his bridge!

I think Ben Affleck was the protagonist in that one too. The idea must have been to use bad acting to distract from a terrible plot and abysmal realism.

I can't believe that you actually watched that movie.

Did you decide that you wanted to rue your existence for more time on this Earth? Why oh why would you waste your remaining time on this planet watching that? Why not do something productive-like take up smoking-next time?

RE: Worst modern war film of all time

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:06 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: Miller

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

C'mon Miller, old boy-I think you should watch it so that you can weigh them against one another. C'mon man-do it! [:D]

Not a chance. Even his pretend hair is appalling.

C'mon. I dare you. [:'(]

RE: Worst modern war film of all time

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:07 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: Miller
Fury, not bad until the final 30 minute battle scene where a single tank crew kills half an elite* SS division.

*By elite, I mean run straight at the front of the tank with only your rifle to be mown down in your hundreds....

Technically speaking, it was an SS battalion. [:'(]

RE: Worst modern war film of all time

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:08 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: spence
Kokoda was a good one about WW2.

Been looking for this one stateside for years. How did you watch this?

RE: Worst modern war film of all time

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:21 pm
by RFalvo69
ORIGINAL: Miller

I think this one even eclipses P**** H******.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApVOF66cLPY

The action and the acting, however, look better than those in The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi. [:D]

RE: Worst modern war film of all time

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:30 pm
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Well, my nomination is for a film pitting WWII naval vessels against alien invaders : Battleship

So many bad things in there it would take too long to write them all up so I will state my biggest issue - The USS Missouri is brought into service to fight the aliens and just happens to have ammo in the magazines. It uses its mighty 16" guns to hit the alien ships and hurts them but does not destroy them.

The aliens sink Missouri with their rasp-torpedoes that bore holes through the ship. The hero switches to a slightly more modern DD that still has a 5'' gun and closes with the damaged alien vessel. Do they fire the 5" gun to finish it off? Nooooooo! They get some rifles from the armoury and close in enough to shoot the alien commander on his bridge!

I think Ben Affleck was the protagonist in that one too. The idea must have been to use bad acting to distract from a terrible plot and abysmal realism.

I can't believe that you actually watched that movie.

Did you decide that you wanted to rue your existence for more time on this Earth? Why oh why would you waste your remaining time on this planet watching that? Why not do something productive-like take up smoking-next time?
No worries - I spent $0 on it - it was on TV on one of the movie channels. I wanted to see colour high-def footage of a real battleship (not much out there) and my grandkids wanted to see aliens and CGI. Grandparents make all kinds of senseless sacrifices for their grandkids.

RE: Worst modern war film of all time

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:37 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
Some have been pretty darned bad: Monument Men and, I'd submit, Flags of Our Fathers.

Respectfully disagree. I thought Monument Men very well done. Flags of Our Fathers-while not as compelling as Letters... was certainly watchable.
And then there have been some real gems: ....Enemy at the Gates...

Enemy at the Gates? The one with Jude Law? Where this Brit with a horrendous accent-who is in turn surrounded by other Brits with horrendous accents-plays the role of a famous Soviet sniper? Nah mate. That thing was beer-and-pretzels 'meh' all the way.

RE: Worst modern war film of all time

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:38 pm
by RFalvo69
ORIGINAL: Miller

Fury, not bad until the final 30 minute battle scene where a single tank crew kills half an elite* SS division..

Wasn’t that scene inspired by a real life episode narrated in Belton Y. Cooper's “Death Traps”?

RE: Worst modern war film of all time

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:44 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Well, my nomination is for a film pitting WWII naval vessels against alien invaders : Battleship

So many bad things in there it would take too long to write them all up so I will state my biggest issue - The USS Missouri is brought into service to fight the aliens and just happens to have ammo in the magazines. It uses its mighty 16" guns to hit the alien ships and hurts them but does not destroy them.

The aliens sink Missouri with their rasp-torpedoes that bore holes through the ship. The hero switches to a slightly more modern DD that still has a 5'' gun and closes with the damaged alien vessel. Do they fire the 5" gun to finish it off? Nooooooo! They get some rifles from the armoury and close in enough to shoot the alien commander on his bridge!

I think Ben Affleck was the protagonist in that one too. The idea must have been to use bad acting to distract from a terrible plot and abysmal realism.

I can't believe that you actually watched that movie.

Did you decide that you wanted to rue your existence for more time on this Earth? Why oh why would you waste your remaining time on this planet watching that? Why not do something productive-like take up smoking-next time?
No worries - I spent $0 on it - it was on TV on one of the movie channels. I wanted to see colour high-def footage of a real battleship (not much out there) and my grandkids wanted to see aliens and CGI. Grandparents make all kinds of senseless sacrifices for their grandkids.
warspite1

I wouldn't normally view anything with Steven Segal in it, but watched Under Siege just for the beautiful old BB. But it was actually quite a good film for its type, and Tommy Lee Jones was excellent - as was Gary "Do I look like I need a psychological evaluation?" Bussey. The cake scene was memorable too.....


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RE: Worst modern war film of all time

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:09 pm
by MBF
All of you Eberts left out some of the best:

"Invasion USA" and "Delta Force"

c'mon

RE: Worst modern war film of all time

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:10 pm
by Jorge_Stanbury
On my books, there is nothing wrong on having Seagal or Rambo or Indiana Jones beating "bad guys" on the dozens or even hundreds; that is what I like to see when I go watch an "action" movie

but I was really disappointed with Fury, as this was supposedly a "realistic" war film

RE: Worst modern war film of all time

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:03 pm
by Miller
ORIGINAL: RFalvo69

ORIGINAL: Miller

Fury, not bad until the final 30 minute battle scene where a single tank crew kills half an elite* SS division..

Wasn’t that scene inspired by a real life episode narrated in Belton Y. Cooper's “Death Traps”?

Have you actually watched it? After the initial surprise whereby they would have lost maybe a dozen men, any sane commander would have ordered a retreat to a safe distance, break out the anti-tank rockets and blow up Mr Pitt and co. Instead they send wave after wave of men to attack the tank on foot, but not the back of it, lets charge it from the front where all the guns are mounted.....